A lot more twitchy than destiny, but I haven't put tf2 down since I purchased it. It plays very well. I hadn't realised how much I'd gotten used to putting things down to lag and moving on because lag is virtually non existant in tf2 so you're forced to think about just how shitty connections are in destiny. You are shown your ping and the ping of anyone you select from the score screen. It really is a breath of fresh air. I don't think it's a destiny killer because you know, [i]destiny.[/i] ... But it's a very, very welcome distraction from the stagnant broken world of the crucible. And it looks Soo pretty at 60fps.

I want Titanfall 2 so bad ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

Titan fall? try cozmo play overwatch and watch the videos on how the devs tell the players that they WANT THEM TO PLAY THE GAME AND GIVE THEM FEEDBACK!!!!!!.....I mean......mind effing blown!!

When I bought this game, I was told I was buying a PVE focused multi player. Seems like the only players left are the whiny pvp players who think that should be the main priority in this game.

Or. Play Skyrim, and imagine if Destiny had a map that size, with as many dungeons (daily story missions), plus enemies everywhere, mini bosses, bosses, towns, bounties, quests, side missions, loot, a better PvE mode than PoE, strikes, raids, and a spaceship version of strikes...then expansions. PvP does need some work too though, I agree.

Bump

Reguardless of any arguments made - not as many people play Destiny anymore, and not as many people find it fun. I, with 14 years of gaming experience, give my opinion in saying Destiny is in its inevitable decline. Destiny 2 will either revive the series or lay it to rest. I will be waiting for it while i enjoy games in their prime before they, too, give way to the next big game.

So you want us to play Titan fall 2, then you brig up team fortress 2 I'm so confused [spoiler]amirite[/spoiler]

I've always felt like there wasn't enough on a loot based shooter and yet the majority stick to a few weapons. I feel like the vendor weapons (and armor?) should of always dropped post matches. Nobody wants armor from a rank up package and we don't buy it from vendors willy nilly. Please don't make old content irrelevant in D2 like you so successfully did to D1.

[quote]I could write a research paper on what makes a fun multiplayer game, but instead... I'll just make a suggestion that will help you understand what I'm talking about: Objectively play a session of Destiny, a game you most likely have hours devoted to(meaning you know your way around it), and then play a session of TitanFall 2. I won't spoil anything If you haven't played this game. However, I feel that it's important that you have this experience(comparing the baseline experience of Destiny and TF2 in PVP)so that you can report your findings to the crucible sandbox team. I say this, not to bag on Destiny, but out of love. I'm confident after playing TF2, you will understand what I'm getting at with this post. I know that the team at Bungie is aware of how important it is to have a solid PVP experience. I know that considerable resources have been assigned to work on Destiny 2 and it is a critical time to get things going in the right direction. To put it bluntly, right now the crucible isn't much fun, and the community has been very vocal on what they feel are the reasons. DO NOT MISTAKE "NUMBER OF PLAYERS" FOR "PLAYER SATISFACTION". I continue to play Destiny because of the oscillation between cooperative and competitive events... When one is stale, I move to another. However, one side is, and always has been a better, more polished experience, that being PVE. Many people are here for that very reason, but at some point, the absolutely defeating feeling of the crucible becomes too much, and activity drops. I'm already seeing it on my friends list right now. It doesn't have to be this way. The entire philosophy is so off base and wrong for the crucible... And it's deeper than just bad connections, poor weapon balance, shifting metas, and limited map design. The problems with the crucible are so numerous because the entire act of crucible is counter to itself... 1. Supers and heavy weapons make the game more casual, yet we are matched aggressively by skill. We're told to "not take it seriously but the entire back-end ensures that we take it damn serious or else it's a snow ball of supers and one shot kills. 2. The entire game is based on loot, but you better use the few weapons that perform in the limited map design if you want to not be destroyed. I CANNOT believe that Auto rifles are still in the shape they are in after all this time. 3. On top of not having any options for social or casual play, we have an entire competitive mode, with content locked behind a 9-0 tournament THAT HAS ALMOST ZERO MODERATION. Dig into the paid carry scene Cozmo... What you will find there is staggering, and the situation is worse than people believe. NO COMPETITIVE GAME OR SPORT OPERATES BY HAVING PAID PROFESSIONALS COMPETING AGAINST AVERAGE JOES, and then giving them a trophy for it. It's like the Cubs playing the weekend warrior dads baseball team. Not to mention cheating... Which is related to everything wrong with trials currently. 4. There is only a few ways to play Destiny, and every change made to increase TTK and promote counter play, has resulted in the same"bait and ambush" gameplay that exists in every modern shooter. The issue is that Destiny isn't every other modern shooter, and has the potential for so much more. I understand that TF2 and Destiny are two very different games, but the common thread in PVP for both games is that players are fighting each other. If you take the time to take part in this request, pay attentiontothenextday to the things that make that process less stressful, and more in line with the goals set forth by BUNGIE for the crucible... A fun casual experience for players of all skill and type to enjoy. Right now fun is the last thing I would call the crucible.[/quote] [armory] [/armory]