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Edited by BraveCole:
9/5/2016 3:38:02 PM
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The Last Word Should Get A Complete Overhaul
[spoiler]contrary to my other posts, this one is more on the serious side.[/spoiler]
Okay so The Last Word is kinda weird right now.
The nerfs and buffs to hand cannons have affected TLW in many ways. The gun was meant to be hip fired but the blanket buff to hand cannons that increased accuracy when ADS made this gun more consistent when ADS, making the exotic perk almost useless.
Here's an idea on how I think the gun can be balanced.
Return the precision damage increase when firing from the hip and increased stability.
But.
The gun can only be fanfired when firing from the hip. If you ADS, it will fire like a regular handcannon.(seriously, how is a guardian able to ADS and fanfire at the same time)
When ADS, the gun receives an increase to range and accuracy.
When firing from the hip(fanfiring), the gun receives an increase to precision damage and stability.
Thoughts?
Edit: What I meant by "increase to range and accuracy when ADS" is that ADS with the weapon will give it a slight range boost to avoid phantom bullets. But it will not get the significant range boost of the first curse.
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YES! I agree!
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Umm no, I can agree to the whole fanfare thing but the ADS giving range boost no, not on
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4 RepliesThe entire issue with that gun is that its to damn good while firing from the hip doing this would just make it broken again the gun needs a base damage nerf a huge stability nerf. No reason anyone should even be out gunned by a player who cant aim thats just ridiculous and stupid.
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The gun is crap. I hardly come across anyone using it; let alone effectively. Being killed by it more than likely means you were outplayed or have poor gun skill. Sidearms are better than TLW. So many others guns in year 2 that can easily challenge or out shoot TLW which makes nerfing it pointless. If anything other HCs should be balanced to be more competitive (not OP) without relying soley on "god rolls." HCs are just about useless without range and stability perks (exotics being the exception.)
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The last word is fine they need to fix the ghost shots
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Wasn't the exotic perk taken off of it months ago? Why are we complaining? I recall in April or whenever when people were whining it was hit too hard.
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1 ReplyYeah it's ridiculously prevalent in The Crucible anymore. My God, this weekend was the weekend of The Last Word. I had fought against teams were all 6 of them had that thing equipped.
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Or.... or..... take it out the game. Give it the "shot package" treatment
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I always thought it should ONLY hipfire, but with alarming accuracy. Like an original Halo pistol. Something that felt like it was meant to gain an edge by a simple shortcut, but somehow make aiming it a whole different kind of beast. I always thought that would've made The Last Word unique without being OP. Maybe it would still make it too good, or maybe it would gimp it depending. I don't really know. I just always thought that would be the coolest thing for an Exotic Hand Cannon.
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2 RepliesThe last word is perfectly fine, you just have to know how to use it to be proficient with it.
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1 ReplyI've made a similar suggrstion, but yes that would probably fix everything.
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The gun is awesome. I see no reason to mess with it. In my opinion it's in a good place.
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Wow. This would be great!
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this is perfect
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Brilliant actually.
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Would certainly help bring it back to its glory days of year one. But I'm not so sure that bungie wants to do this as of now because of the infamous ADS glitch that this weapon had back then. If you weren't aware, it was a trick that allowed TLW 's exotic perk to proc while ADSing. Was probably the bane of all guardians who were unfortunate enough web on the wrong end of it.
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Edited by xilxad: 9/6/2016 2:52:11 AMI like your idea, i dont know why no one realized it before. You shouldn't really be able to fan the hammer AND ads anyway. But the weapon isnt hurting, i say it has to be one of the top primaries in trials last couple of weeks.
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Great idea
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I like this idea.
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Edited by Erijian: 9/6/2016 2:49:42 AMA lot of people don't seem to realize that Fanfare also increases your Rate of Fire..It doesn't just grant you the "Full Auto" perk. OP's idea would make The Last Word a basic 32 ROF/68 IMP Hand Cannon if you chose to aim with it because all the perks would only work while hipfiring..Which is how it should've been from the start. It's a solid suggestion that doesn't ruin the weapon. Hell, it would be a buff for those who like to go McCree on everything, but does hurt those who try to use it the unintended way..Overall making it less versatile. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ @OP, in regards to The Last Word getting bonus damage back..It should just be bonus damage in general; the last thing you want to prioritize while hipfiring a weapon should be aiming for the head. It should just be bonus damage to non-precision hits, since trying to balance it in a way that allows for three-taps to the body WITHOUT letting two-taps to the head return is impossible. Though that's just my two glimmer, mostly based around the idea of it being the opposite of The First Curse. (Close Range+Hipfire+Spray VS. Long Range+ADS+Precision)
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People are still destroying in crucible with this weapon. So they will not buff this weapon
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Jesus christ that's actually a really -blam!-ing good idea
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I've been saying this since launch, TLW should only fan fire from the hip.
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