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Edited by Cozmo: 5/6/2016 7:34:00 PM
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Bungie, please listen to the community. We voice our opinions because we care

(This will be a long post. Holy wall of text batman! But seriously this is going to be really long. My TLDR is my title) Let me preface this by saying that I absolutely love this game, and any criticism or ideas I have for improving it come solely from how much I want the game to improve, and I mean no ill will towards the game or its creators. Seriously, thank you for making this game. I have met some amazing people through this game and I have had so much fun playing it. But let's tone down the fanboyism, and talk about some serious changes that need to happen in order to freshen the game up. Just like with The Taken King, I want my eyes to light up with wonder with new things to explore and do, and for this game to surprise me at every corner. Instead, most of the game hasn't done that expect for a few special areas. (Hello Vault of Glass, and the first time we got swords) I also want to say that I know I'm not a game developer. I won't try to pretend I understand the amount of coding or work that goes into these things. And I certainly don't feel like Bungie has to listen to me. I'm just a guy. But putting my opinions and ideas for the game out there is the only way to share them with others, and I can only hope people will care enough to at least read my thoughts at approximately 6am due to lack of sleep. Firstly, let's talk about necessary things that alot of community agrees upon. I don't speak for everyone, but these are hot topics in the community without a doubt. 1.) Dedicated Servers. Peer to peer connection simply isn't a good way to do this. The lag spikes and unpredictability not only effect the Crucible, but can effect raiding. 2.) Custom Games. Please let us choose to play with friends. You've already seen how the community goes out of its way to schedule tournaments, help a brother out. In addition, let us create our own game modes like back in Halo 3.) Ranked and Unranked playlists. I want to choose if I play sweaty or not. I have no proof to back up my next claim, but I currently feel like the system with the Crucible is rigged. You're purposefully set up to win sometimes and you're purposefully set up to lose, to try to make it appear as if there is a 50/50 win ratio for all players. That's ridiculous. Just let games be games. If a team gets stomped, we have the Mercy ruling, and it breaks up unfair teams afterwards anyways, so the next one is a fresh new pool of people. 4.) Bring in the exotics that never came. Please. Warlocks need some boots, and Hunters need to be frosty. (If you have anything else I missed that the community has all been voicing, please share. And I'm not talking about nerf posts. I mean real stuff, thanks!) Thanks for making it this far! But wait! There's more! Now I will add my personal ideas that could be used as inspiration to improve the game possibly. Again, I don't feel bungie has to listen to me. I just hope they do 1.) Multiclassing! As a huge fan of RPG's and D&D (Which inspired countless video games), multiclassing has always been a huge factor in designing and customizing your perfect character. Perks could be replaced in certain columns and (With restrictions!) players could build what they would like. Players could choose a single multiclass build in a fourth slot and level it up. If they wanted to change it, they would have to delete it and level another. That keeps players from spamming different builds constantly and finding the most OP one. But still allows everyone to migrate to what they would want to play as. Are you telling me you don't want to be a shadestepping knife thrower? Or a shoulder charging Sunbreaker? Or a juggernaut Defender? Or a scatter grenade throwing Stormcaller? Or a firebolt throwing Voidwalker? Or a blink shadestepping Bladedancer!? No one can say no to these things. Don't deny it. And for those who say it's OP in Crucible, yeah I'm sure some builds would be a bit unfair, but honestly I don't have a problem with that too much. But if the community was against it, I wouldn't mind limiting the playlists multiclassses were allowed into. 2.) The loot system feels so backwards it's hard to believe. Why is an Imago Loop 1000x more rare than a MIDA? Isn't Imago Loop a lower rarity level? Legendary drops need to be ten fold. I'm not kidding. I've grinded so many strikes since The Taken King, and I've received 2 Imago Loops. 2. Wanna guess how many Hawkmoons? Yeah, me either. Exotics aren't rare at all. Certain legendary weapons such as the aforementioned Imago Loop, Grasp of Malok, Eyasluna, and Stolen Will, are all so much more rare. Personally I think this should change. Three of Coins flooded people with exotics. Maybe they should have worked with legendary drops instead. 3.) Certain perks are simply useless. When was the last time you got Partial Refund on a weapon and thought how excited you were? ...wait, you haven't... ever?.. that's right that perk is so useless, half the readers would need to look it up while reading this because they've never even heard of it. It's such trash. A chance to refund a portion of your magazine on an assist. Whew. Talk about garbage. Same with Exhumed, Vacuum, and so many more. Please buff these. Just like when you buffed Mulligan. Remember when it was terrible, and now people agree it's a decent perk? Me too. And this goes the other way as well. Anyone else have war flashbacks of the terror of shot package? The imbalance between how amazing certain perks are and how trash others are astounds me. 4.) An even more in depth infusion system. If I get a weapon without the perks I want, what am I to do? Throw it away in the heaps of other weapons in my vault that could have been amazing given they rolled just a bit different? I don't think so. What if the system was changed so that if I infused something into something else of the same type (Sniper, Shotgun, Gauntlets, etc) I could choose one of the perk nodes to replace another in the something that's being infused. For example, I have an LDR 5001, without the Ambush scope, at light level 280. I also have a Weylorans March with the Ambush scope at light level 335. When I infuse the March into the LDR, it would be nice to choose to bring the Ambush scope with me, same with other perks such as Hidden Hand, or Last Resort. (I would have to infuse separately for each node) This would let people build their perfect weapon and armor builds, and be able to achieve their personal god rolls while also bringing it some sweet sweet grinding that you at Bungie love so much. It's like somewhere between the old reforge system and the new infusion system. I might add I don't think exotics should work with this system. 5.) Make encountering other guardians worth while. When this game was advertised they talked about how you can run into other guardians doing a strike or patrol mission and meet them that way to make this a more immersive experience. But every time I do, 99/100 times, we part ways like nothing happened, and when something does happen, it's just a wave or a mini dance session. What if there were secret missions that gave exclusive cosmetic gear that only triggered when two guardians ran into eachother sometimes? They would work together on a secret mission issued by the vanguard and complete said urgent mission and get rewards. (If they were in a strike, their teammates could be informed of this and 2 man it until the teammate returns). That would be so immersive, and it feels more realistic, and gives meaning to this "Shared world shooter", as Bungie calls it. 6.) Bring back the year 1 stuff Bungie. No need to overhaul the Vault of Glass or Crota's End, just up the light level and let us get that gear at higher levels. If the burn damage on primaries is still an issue in your minds, just remove it from the year 2 versions, no biggie. The year 1 strikes that were brought forward could add in even more strike exclusive gear. Like the Devil's Lair strike. Could you imagine if it gave a strike exclusive servitor ghost shell? That would be one of the coolest things ever. Phogoth could give a warlock bond that were chains, and perhaps a weapon as well. So many chances for new things Bungie. (This includes all year 1 exotic armor and weapons) 7.) Custom Shaders, Ships, Emblems, and Sparrows. Why do we get nothing for dismantling these? A whole ship and nothing worth keeping? But really, what if Eva Levante had her own ranking and with each level you could build your own shader more in depth. And by dismantling a shader, you could add in one of its colors into your pool to use to create your own shader. Same goes with emblems. And Amanda Holiday could work the same way to build your own Sparrows and Ships. This is all cosmetic bungie, nothing but upsides to this. 8.) Make the Grimoire come alive. It would be amazing to get to play as Shaxx at the battle of Twilight Gap, or as Eris Morn in her journey in the darkness, to defend the city like Saint-14, or to feel the corruption of the darkness take us over, like Dredgon Yor or Toland, the Shattered. To get to play these things would be so incredible. And even to play through the Books of Sorrow and get to experience gameplay as Oryx. Seriously. 9.) Space ship battles. Nothing more. And bring back SRL with even more stuff! The more variety this game has the more of a crowd you'll bring in If you read all this, seriously thank you. Hard to believe someone listened to my rants as long as you did. If you Guardians have any ideas, please feel free to share! And for the Nth time, I don't think Bungie needs to listen to me. But it's cool just to share my ideas with the community. Thanks again! Th-th-thats all folks!! [spoiler]Ninja Edit: Moved this to #Feedback[/spoiler]
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  • [quote] 8.) Make the Grimoire come alive. It would be amazing to get to play as Shaxx at the battle of Twilight Gap, or as Eris Morn in her journey in the darkness, to defend the city like Saint-14, or to feel the corruption of the darkness take us over, like Dredgon Yor or Toland, the Shattered. To get to play these things would be so incredible. And even to play through the Books of Sorrow and get to experience gameplay as Oryx. Seriously. [/quote] I think Grimorie should play out similar to events while patrolling. Think about how awesome it would be to be walking along and Watch some of the Grimorie about different people play out right in front of you.

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  • They have been listening to you kids and all you do is cry nerfs so now half of my favorite gear is trash. So thanks

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  • in case you haven't been paying attention, most of the changes to this game were because of the community. for the good or bad, the game is the way it is because of the community.

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  • This I agree with.

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  • And match replays! D: I want to edit montages but don't want to be recording all the time, playing no-hud is pretty hard in crucible

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    • Dedicated servers isn't such a simple thing to ask. It requires rewriting a huge chunk of the backend... something that probably took them a long time during their multi-year creation. It's just just a simple "switch" to flip to say "point here instead..." if everything is coded for P2P then switching that is a major pain in the arse. Maybe for Destiny 2, but perhaps not until Destiny 3 (if there is one).

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      • I stopped at blink shadestepping knide throwers or whatever. That would be impossible to balance or justify. What they should do is just add more to the already existing skill trees.

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        • Multiclassing will not work unless certain perks are banned from being allowed in them. Firebolt with life steal? Nuhthankyuh

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          • Number 4 isn't going to happen. Reforging let people (cheaply) roll the same gun over and over and over until they got EXACTLY what they wanted - the PERFECT gun. Sometimes dozens (plural) of times. Bungie took that out for a reason. Your number 4 would let them do that even quicker. So -- many of us are quite against Reforging.

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            • Edited by BERSEKAEL: 5/6/2016 7:04:16 PM
              Also... check your statistics to buff/nerf classes and subclases, so every subclass is competitive... for a reason less than 5% plays defender for pvp.

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            • Xur also needs to bring back exotic shards. Bungie, you have tried forever to make exotics be difficult and expensive to upgrade, obtain, etc. You forced us to spend a shard to upgrade that last node. We were forced to use a shard to change our Y1 exotic to a higher light value during HoW. Meaning if you did that, you ended up spending 2 shards on that shiny new higher level exotic when you were fully upgrading it. You realized that was ridiculous and did away with that nonsense. I get what you were trying to do. And I have NO problem with being forced to use an exotic shard to infuse my current exotics. That makes 100% sense. But you offer no easy way to obtain shards. No, 3 of coins is not an easy way to obtain shards. 7 coins for 5 chances at one exotic is not easy. Not only that, but if you want to use glass needles you need a shard. If you want to get a certain Y2 exotic out of your kiosk, you need a shard. Everything regarding exotics needs a shard. So why do you not give us a fair way of obtaining them? Now...please have Xur sell exotic shards again. 7 coins for 1 shard is a steep price, but we would gladly accept that.

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              • I have gotten 6 Loops and 0 Midas, guess my luck just isn't the same as everyone else. Would much rather have 3 of each.

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              • Pls, listen to the community? Most of it just whines and cries about not getting everything handed to them, and their character not always beating the other (nerf warlock, hunter, titan)

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              • Sorry Bungie is unavailable. They are too busy working on Destiny 2 to give any fuuucks about your post. Also over charging you for Emotes and micro transactions. The Plot twist here is that Destiny 2 is already done. Probs. They are just going through and cutting literally everything out to repackage to you at launch as DLC. The sad part is, most of you (who have common sense) know this to be true.

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                  • Edited by Strix: 5/6/2016 3:15:30 PM
                    Absolutely! The only thing I would ask for on top of that is a vanity slot because some of the common and rare gear is so well designed! Edit: I liked #4, building [i]my[/i] character and gear is a big draw for me in a game.

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                  • I'm glad they don't listen to us considering the amount of retarded nerf posts (pointing towards you bozos trying to get shoulder charge needed)

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                  • Bungievision doesn't care, 99% of their resources are focused on Destiny2.

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                  • I really enjoy this game also. I really like most of your ideas. The biggest thing that disappoints me about this game is they add with subtraction. They add new strikes and take away others. They add a raid and make the other 2 useless. They give us the hunting the wolves in HOW and take them away with TTK. I was under the impression that when they added stuff, it would be stacked on top of stuff we already had thus giving us even more things to do. Not the case as I found out. I know people are going to tell me "that's how mmorpg games are" I say " what law says you have to leave content behind? Be diffrent and make everything you add relevant by having the content either scale or put a level slider so you can set difficulty". I miss pologoth and septis (sp is off) and a boat load of other stuff we did. Not to mention, they went to the trouble to design and program this content and now it lays wasted. Bottom line for me...make everything relevant always

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                    • Edited by Epic, Eater of Worlds: 5/6/2016 2:36:42 PM
                      I wanted so hard to tl:dr that post, but then, I found out this was exactly what I had in mind(the content of the post, that is). There are still things unmentionned that I'd like to be corrected, like weapon 'nurfing onlsaught patch after patch, but hey, whatever man. [spoiler]I liked ''idea number 4''[/spoiler]

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                    • Edited by Severed Ronin: 5/6/2016 11:20:51 AM
                      They're not going to listen to us. Hell, they don't listen to the people they feature when they blatantly ask, "What can be done to improve Destiny?" Which I realize isn't strictly true. They probably are listening but only to implement into Destiny 2.

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                      • If bungie listened to the people on this forum they would only be listening to a very small percentage of its player base. Many people that I play with are .ax lvl have 10k + hours into this game. Not 1 of them would ever be bothered to post here. All the idiots that cry nerf get their way here. It's sad because it's not even a majority of the community.

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                      • I like your number 4 idea. The previous reforging system was broken because you could get the perfect roll in 2 minutes. With the one you propose you can get your god roll but it will actually require some work.

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