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Edited by Gosha
5/3/2016 1:38:23 AM
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So uh, Bungie, when is the sniper issue being fixed??
TL;DR at the bottom (Yw)
You know what dominates the crucible?
Snipers
You know what is used more than anything else in the crucible?
Snipers
You know what should be nerfed because of this?
Snipers
Now don't get me wrong, I myself use snipers so I feel like I actually have a valid opinion in this matter.
I like sniping, know why? It's real -blam!-ing easy, not just because this game has super high aim assist, but because there are perks you can get on snipers to INCREASE aim assist, making this simplistic task, mindlessly easy.
Now I imagine some (all) of you snipers out there will disagree with me because snipers are a precise weapon, they are, but bungie made them too precise and powerful.
Such as shotguns last year.
I was there, I loved my matador and the action filled gameplay with both opposing sides rushing each other dueling it out man to man.
But now...
Everyone sits back and snipes.
Where's the fun in that?
I guess if the shotgun meta was something you called for a nerf on, but you arent calling for a nerf on this, I understand. It sucks using an easy gun to dominate a team.
Now, it may seem like I'm just bashing with no solutions in sight, but fear not, here are some ideas to fix this boring meta.
1. Stop Rez-sniping all together, either increase immune time when revived, or make decrease sniper HS damage across the board so they cannot one shot anyone with an over shield.
2. Do not give ammo at the start of games, or, if you do, do not drop special throughout the match but start with full ammo
3.Greatly increase recoil on snipers
4. Buff something else *cough* shotguns, and in turn, keep snipers where they are
5. Remove hidden hand (the ultimate HS crutch)
6. Don't like my suggestions, come up with something better other than "stop whining" this is my first complaint post my entire time being apart of this toxic/cancerous community.
7. Make more counters to sniping, make it less effective at close range (not mid-long)
8. Make sniping like halo, if you get shot (should only be a headshot for this) you go out of your scope
edit - spelling
edit 2 - suggestion #5
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I knew that when making this post i'd see 4 types of people explicitly
1. Someone who agrees or disagrees with me but doesnt offer any solutions themselves
2. People who agree or disagree with me that offer real criticism and solutions (the mvps)
3. The trolls
4. the people who bring my stats into this arguement, my personal favorite because they have nothing to offer and have shit all against me :)
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it seems most of you dont want a nerf (i was once like you as well inb4 year 1) and i understand why that may not seem like a good idea to you, I too believe buffing other weapons to create more diversity in the PvP atmosphere is a great idea
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if you havent read the entire post and start commenting absolute BS, just know you're a moron
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suggestions
TL;DR sniping should reward those who are good, weapon balance is almost spot on as of post April update, primaries need a buff, most popular suggestions for snipers
1.remove hidden hand
2. Increase flinch when being shot
3. Add scope sway
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2 RepliesNerf snipers in PvP, but unnerf the PvP nerfs in PvE.
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The Rez immune idea is a good one, as far as sniper nerfs, I feel like their "almost" balanced. If they added some sort of accuracy nerf when you first scope in that alone would level out the secondary field. (Example), for the first 5 seconds your scoped your sight is not 100% on point. So in order to make sure your shots are straight you are more inclined to stay scoped. There for making you vulnerable for someone to rush you since you can't see your radar. That's about the fairest and most reasonable fix in my opinion. Another idea is to drop the base damage and add to the crit damage. So no more double tap body shots.
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They can nerf, buff, eliminate whatever in pvp. I play it all the time and like it more than COD which I'm better at than Destiny. Snipers are god weapons in every Fps ever. Like you'll hear a lot git gud. I get out shot all day. Sucks but whatever The problem is the nerfs are universal pvp and pve. Now I can't kill shit with my shotgun in the prison of elders or on strikes. They're useless outside of pvp, as is my bladedancer. My moral to the story is do not nerf anything b3cause it -blam!-s up the heart of the game which is the story mode
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Better nerf that mute button. Too OP
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Every game is consumed by snipers, has been since the original CoD. Jump on the train or get left behind.
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Descope on taking fire
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They should descope when headshot. Other than that the scope fixes have made them very tame.
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This post gave me aids
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Ur point are invalid AA? every FPS game that played with joy sticks has lots of AA that's because if it was to be taken out you probably won't hit a shot in your life. Aiming with a joy stick without a doubt would be hell. Also while sniping is easy no lies there. But you do realize pass NORMAL AA the aim assist in FPS games. you do know AA helps almost nothing unless its above 85. And snipers are one of the only weapons (if not the only weapon type) that adding AA don't curve bullets. Yes this is true for all other weapons but sniper funny enough. If your sniper has 90+ AA it helps get drag scopes pretty constantly but only 2 snipers have that as of right now and both are HoF snipers which most people don't use. Lastly snipers have been the same since the start of the game but did you know NO BAT IN EYE IN YEAR 1? I guess you can guess the answer but that because everything else was nerfed so hard. sniper seem to be the only choice but that's not even true. Facts be told shotguns are better all around just takes a player with skills to use it at its best. But most people just care for KD and sit back thinking there good at the game saying " when the next one pop out I'm destroy him and go on a 5 kills streak and everyone will think I'm good with a sniper and good at this game" or something along these lines Wow was this long my fault😂😂😂. At the end of the day what I'm saying is. The only reason you complaining is because bungie nerfed everything else and sniper were mainly non change (funny but actually I remember reading that in year 1 their was more AA and less screen shake when being hit but that was changed in TTK). Also why are we trying to change special? their fine. This WONT be a problem if people had primaries but that's not possible because bungie thinks hearing people complain about what's Op and what not helps the game (like you) if bungie buffs up primaries (a perfect example would be thorn year 2) then more people would get off dem hallways and do something other then hardscope.
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Do what you want to pvp - leave pve alone.
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Completely agree
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3 RepliesShotguns do NOT need a buff.
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I disagree but you made a good argument
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Here's the thing, I'm being killed by as many shotguns as snipers, and as many sidearms and fusions. Snipers aren't a problem, they're just a very strong weapon in the current meta. Along with shotguns and fusion rifles, although fusion rifles still lack consistency.
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5 RepliesIf you don't like the game, then go play a different one that you like better. Don't be a whiny little bitch on their period and clutter up the forums with shit posts.
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Start playing against good competitive players and you will see an extreme lack of snipers. Almost nothing but shotties. I sweat a lot and more often than not I'm the only sniper. Bad snipers play pubs and harass weaker players. Good players don't stress about snipers
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Tbh I haven't noticed snipers killing me any more than a mida, tlw, or a shotgun. Nothing needs a "fix action." Stop messing with crucible before its FUBAR.
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Snipers are at an okay state. They aren't the least used or handicapped for sure but since fusions have started making a comeback the usage has gone down significantly
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2 RepliesLet's just start buffing other guns instead of nerfing everything
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I see what you mean about getting headshot while under fire, shit shouldn't happen, but... I've recently started using a sniper (not alot, just more than usual). And the times I've headshot someone under fire was because the recoil from getting shoy moved the reticle over the targets head and I pulled the trigger, bam headshot. Does not happen often, people using snipers as mid range weapons is what really sux ass, but honestly I get sniper by campers maybe once or twice a game. And get killed by a sniper in a match maybe 3 times, 4 max? Seems pretty balanced to me.. But Meh who cares, it's a game and I enjoy playing it, I expect to die whenever I enter Crucible, who gives a shit what it's by?
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6 RepliesMy only "problem" with snipers is how easy they can headshot you under fire, im a scout user and landing 3 headshots only to get killed by the guy you are shooting should not be possible.
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1 ReplyI like how shot package was removed from shotguns because of it being the best perk, why can't hidden hand be for snipers? Also rangefinder got nerfed 30%-5% effective increase where as snapshot was only dropped from 30%-20%. Coincidence I think not
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Alright, so, I agree that res sniping should be fixed. Bungie should add something that registers the closest enemy guardian. If he's less than five feet away, the over shield is the same, if it's farther, the over shield should prevent a one hit kill. However, I don't believe that the power is too powerful, if you know what I mean. If you're shot in the head, you should die. If you're shot in the chest, you should die. They were generous on chest shots and gave it two shots, in my opinion. Sorry if you disagree, just my opinion.
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2 RepliesIncrease handling times of snipers. Raise and drop times, ads speed, and such. Increase flinch when shot. You shouldn't be in a primary fight, get to the point you know you're gonna lose and simply swap weapons while still being shot at shotgun range and pull off a headshot.
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4 RepliesAha it's a warlock, you people told me that we hunters were Nerfherders well this isn't a hunter but it is a Nerfherder
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