The murder rate in autrialia and Great Britain did not decrease at all since their bans. The murder rate in the u.s. has been steadily decreasing, however.

Nice b8 3/8

The government has no right to change that right. You obivously don't understand the bill of rights.

they will never be banned. Post irrelevant.

Criminals can still gain access to guns you know, illegally. Thats what criminals do. Illegal stuff. While we're over here with -blam!-ing nothing, abiding laws that were set up by our government, these assholes still have guns and are killing people with them. Yeah that sounds like a safe America, you -blam!-ing idiot. Add as much TL;DR as you want and my answer is still the same. America is too huge and unpredictable to [i]not[/i] allow citizens to carry guns. The Army and national guard and police don't have enough people to defend everyone during an invasion or crisis, which you'd be a fool if you think that wouldn't happen eventually. Bottom line, liberals and libertarians are the cancer of America.

It's gonna cost a phucking assload of money to get all the guns. I'm not taking a side, but it's hard to get that number of people needed to do such a task. Let alone their salaries

When a big black guy breaks into your house with a knife, or club I bet you'll wish you had that gun.

Didn't work in England Gun crime turned into knife crime

Nice b8 m8

So when guns are banned innocent people don't have guns and bad people have guns.. think about it banning them will only do so much.

Yeah, because the people wanting to ban guns are really going to be a threat in the revolt... You bitches die first. :)

Well this is America..we pride ourselves in doing stupid shit. Look at all of our presidential candidates

You can try and take my guns. We will see who leaves with my guns. I can tell you this though. I probably have bigger guns than you and more of them. Good luck.

[quote]Pro gun statement: 'Criminals won't listen to laws!'. My response: True, that is what makes them criminals and this a true sounding statement. My question to that is why doesn't ever robber or assault in England involve guns? It's always a criminal commuting these acts yet they very rarely have a gun! This is because guns are not readily available, even to your common criminal. I'm no saint, I smoke weed and as such deal with a fair few drug dealers, I know none of them even know where to get a gun let alone have one. (Excluding deep net but that's risky). I admit this would take a while to achieve this level in the USA, but it would be a hell of a lot safer.[/quote] My question is, why does this matter to you in the UK? Also, you have admitted to not respecting your government's laws regarding weed. What gives you the right to lecture others on respecting laws? [quote]Pro gun statement: 'other things kill too!' My response: Yes, like water and drowning, but nothing else has killing as its only function. (Besides a deterrent by threat of killing of course)[/quote] We also use guns for sports such as target practice. We use them for hunting so we do not always have to buy meat at the market. Some of the meat (deer meat in particular) is leaner and better for the consumer. [quote]Pro gun statement: 'it's my right!' My response: Yes, for the time being. If you respect that 'right' then you must respect your governments right to change that 'right'. Which is exactly what they did when they put it in place to begin with! They are able to 'amend' it again. Respect it when they do.[/quote] Here we have a cultural difference. Our government cannot just change the Constitution on a whim. Constitutional amendments go through a long process to ensure that they are not changed for stupid reasons. Also, the Second Amendment is included in our Bill of Rights. These are considered particularly sacred to Americans as a whole. [quote]Pro gun statement: 'violent crime is just as high in the UK!'. My response: Again yes, but what do our two nations consider as violent crime? Here in the U.K. You could be leaving a shops with a bag and if I grabbed that bag and ran, that is technically a 'violent crime'. In the USA violent means violent making the figures very distorted to compare.[/quote] I will give you that one. [quote]Pro gun statement: 'Prohibition!' My response(by an average gamer):To everybody citing prohibition as a reason to [i]not[/i] ban guns, I'd like to point out that prohibition failed because alcohol is [i]so[/i] easy to obtain you can actually make it yourself without too much difficulty. This is also why the war on cannabis fails so regularly. Guns/ammunition are [i]much[/i] harder to create yourself.[/quote] Guns are relatively easy to make. You could probably make one out of the items you have around the house right now. There are quite a few people in America who build their own guns as part of a hobby. I understand where you are coming from, but with respect, we don't tell you how to live your life in the UK, and our ancestors fought a war so that people in the UK could not tell us how to live ours. This is our issue.

It wont ever happen. Americans are too stubborn/stupid to make the changes. Plus, guns are such a niche part of their lifestyle and economy that removing them would have serious side effects.

Oh go blow off a man-trollope, you nasty spotted prancer!

While I'm open to the idea in the U.S., the entire culture needs to change, along with a reform with the police force. Vast retraining and different techniques must be taught to smoothen the transition to a gun free country. If a place like the UK can do it, it's obviously possible with enough effort.

Gun crime will be greatly reduced*