Can we settle this please?
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Looks like we mostly agree on its not pay to win.
Please refer any pay to win posts to this poll.
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#Destiny
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Slippery slope....
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5 RepliesIt's pay-to-get-the-exact-same-equivalent-as-people-who-get-it-for-free-but-still-have-to-infuse-it-with-free-gear-to-be-relevant-when-power-matters.
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3 RepliesWhat is option 4. I'm not going to just select option 4 because it says option 4. I want to know what that option is?
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Nothing to settle, anyone who claims this is "pay to win" doesn't understand what "pay to win" is. If you can use real money to buy powerful gear, that is only available from using real money. You have "pay to win". If you can buy something that is not better than anything you can also get by playing, it's not "pay to win". Think of it as "pay to play less".
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Its cosmetic although it has got good perks on the gear But it is still rng
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I don't think it's necessarily pay to win. I'd more say it's pay to try and bypass the rng system. If these armor sets have different perks it will make people more likely to buy these until they get the roll they want if they really want it that badly and with infusion now being 1-1 the fact that they come in with 3 defense is kind of irrelevant. If you have a 335 chest piece and you really want certain perks on that taken chest piece and you're willing to drop money until you get it then you can and have it at 335 instantly. I think that's what is bothering people so much, I say if that's what you want to do then that's your call. I don't think it was a good idea on bungies part but I don't get what all the outrage is about
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Haha I voted the first option without even reading the rest
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1 ReplyOnly if winning is looking hella fabulous
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Its armor. That everyone can get without money and only gives you good looks. You must earn the light yourself. This is pay to win how?
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I want to choose option one, but I'm worried the sarcasm would not come across
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If it were a weapon though this game would be screwed even if it did 1 dmg
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There's 3 v 1 ways to get this I don't think that means pay to win but there needs to be a max per week so little whinny children can't get their mommies to buy them 100$ worth of silver just to have shit early LMAO
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Isn't the armor in eververse just going to be chroma versions of armor you can get in POE and faction vendors? Either way it's not pay to win. Not by a long shot.
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Common, just play the damn game how u wanna play! If u don't like ppl beating u in crusible or whatever, then don't play it!
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3 RepliesThis is about as far as bungie can go that can be acceptable
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PSA: Light Level 3 is not pay to win, and you get (from what I read from Bungie) 3 per week for free...
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2 RepliesEdited by Red October: 3/31/2016 12:21:00 AMFor the exceptionally slow witted allow me explain what Pay to Win, commonly abbreviated as P2W, means. I shall explain this via a story example. Let's say we have two people, Natasha and Gregory. Both Natasha and Gregory play their favorite game, however, that's where the similarities end. Natasha is an exceptionally skilled player, everything she has she has earned. Gregory, on the other hand, not so much. However, a little demon told him that if he dishes out some cash he can get the best gear in the game! Natasha refuses to do so, you see, she is an honest person. Gregory, poor Gregory, he wants to get to the top and so he spends the money on this gear and now shoots up to the top. This gear, mind you, comes with all stats maxed out; the best of traits, no random chance. This, he must no longer work for his gear like Natasha does, because he has the money to sustain his [u][b]Pay to Win[/b][/u] urges, he remains at the top. Thus, don't be like Gregory; be like Natasha. Smart, Skilled, Hard Working, and, with a name like that, probably beautiful too. #RussianFemalesNumberOne #RossiyaTricks
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4 RepliesNo but paying to bypass what others have to grind is unacceptable. Bevause that's still dumb to leave all the people who don't blow their life savings on video games in the dust behind bevause they saved money. This is really really pushing it
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3 RepliesThis is not pay to win at all, I'll say this though. I'm worried. Worried that when the next batch of items come up from tess, it will be armor at 335 light. Because not enough people reject this, and people actually buy it. This is in no way pay to win, but may very well lead the way TO pay to win in the near future.
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Person can buy all the gear he wants but not play , yet a guy who spends about 3 hours well annihilate him in IB. Why you may ask? [spoiler]Bc the gear comes out 3 and people actually go to play to even make it useful[/spoiler]
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Not pay to win because it doesn't give anything that would give the players an advantage over others or end game gear itself. Could someone spend hundreds of dollars for a god roll set of armor? Sure, but those people are stupid and those same people are elitists that just have to have something that no one else has or has to have something before everyone else. That all being said I still don't think it's right. The only way it will stop is if people stop putting their wallet before their words, but sadly that won't happen.
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5 RepliesIt's so painfully obviously p2w. The fact that Bungie thumper fangirls still rush to defend them when they pull this shit is adorable.
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It's cosmeitic stuff tbh.
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3 RepliesI really don't see how buying light level 3 armour is going to give anyone an advantage.
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Nope but in a way my favorite mobile games aren't considered pay to win aswell(Clash and Boom Beach).
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It's not even pay to win.