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2/4/2016 11:24:52 PM
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The MOTW is everything that's wrong with Fusion Rifles.
Seriously, if you can quick-scope and OHK people while jumping (and no I'm not suggesting that should be nerfed), then why the hell were Fusions range destroyed?
They were way harder to land than snipers because we had to charge and time our shots and our bolts weren't instant hits like a sniper.
So -blam!-ing what if we could OHK from 20 yards? Look at your video you posted.
Sniper OHK quick-scope from 200 yards = cool
Fusion OHK charged shot from 20 yards = op as -blam!-, nerf that shit into the ground
We won't even get into shotguns and how they still dominate everything 10 yards in.
I seriously want to know why snipers can own long range, shittiest can own close range and Fusions own the trash heap?
They were arguably the most unique, challenging, rewarding and fun weapons at launch. Now they're just the most frustrating.
Why?
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I feel fusion rifles need a buff, no nerfs for snipers, shotguns just buff fusions...
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1 ReplyBlame the guy who plays inside bungie apparently destroying people with fusion rifles... Its because of one guy who knows how to use fusion rifles that fusions got nerfed
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I don't know if it's true but I read somewhere that there is a Bungie employee who happens to be a fusion rifle god. Every time he plays other employees he steamrolls them with a fusion rifle. He participates in play testing equipped with the weakest fusion rifle in the game and still wrecks. It makes them think fusions are op and they get nerfed based on this one guy who happens to be a fusion rifle expert. Perhaps Bungie should consider that his skill with the fusion rifle does not reflect the skill of most players?
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6 RepliesTime to call it quits Sols. Bungie aren't "listening" anymore. Some would say they never "listened" in the first place. :-\
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2 RepliesEdited by mrbird33: 2/5/2016 10:12:13 AMWaaaaaaa...waaaaaaa 😢 😢 😢 call the waaaaaaambulence hes back crying again instead of just leaving. Play the game for what it is or leave. Real simple
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1 ReplyMy advice, just use the Plan C or thesan while they're still decent. Have fun while you can cause i wouldn't be surprised if fusions get hit again around march. What does piss me off tho is how fusions and shotguns get nerfed directly all the time when the community demands it, yet when it comes to snipers, Bungie decides to destroy special ammo for ALL special weapons.
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Good questions. As a long term player I have no clue why they were nerfed.
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Edited by LONE RONIN2012: 2/7/2016 11:28:32 AMBumping for your hope of balance. But I lost hope long ago.
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You're beating a dead horse sols, they are never doing anything with them
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I wonder if I could do well with praetorian foil hmm...?
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5 RepliesKind of hard for me to agree with you, I been using them since day one and I always wreck players with it. Sometimes I get a kill with each shot in the magazine, even now with this patch I am still doing good but that's as long as it has high stability. For some reason FR with low stability kick up like a shotgun.
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What I don't understand is that fusion rifles are supposed to be a weapon where you have to follow/lead your target. So ideally hipfiring while on the move. Following the target while you charge. But exactly that got nerfed!!! Hip fire stability is horrible now (even with perk) and you get higher (really needed) stability when standing still or crouching. That is not a weapon anymore where I follow the target. This has absolutely missed it's purpose. I absolutely don't understand this particular nerf. What was the thought process behind that?!?
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Edited by VdubExile: 2/6/2016 9:24:50 PMThey took what fusion rifles niche was supposed to be and completely destroyed. They were fine.
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Edited by hooter huhn: 2/6/2016 4:16:19 PM[quote]Seriously, if you can quick-scope and OHK people while jumping (and no I'm not suggesting that should be nerfed), then why the hell were Fusions range destroyed? They were way harder to land than snipers because we had to charge and time our shots and our bolts weren't instant hits like a sniper. So -blam!-ing what if we could OHK from 20 yards? Look at your video you posted. Sniper OHK quick-scope from 200 yards = cool Fusion OHK charged shot from 20 yards = op as -blam!-, nerf that shit into the ground We won't even get into shotguns and how they still dominate everything 10 yards in. I seriously want to know why snipers can own long range, shittiest can own close range and Fusions own the trash heap? They were arguably the most unique, challenging, rewarding and fun weapons at launch. Now they're just the most frustrating. Why?[/quote]why are u crying about a video game go outside n make a life
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3 RepliesEdited by Hells Mascot: 2/6/2016 8:29:31 AMBasically fusion rifles haven't been fixed because Bungie has a policy of making sweeping weapon balances that affect many guns (usually whole archetypes) so as not to make players feel like 'Bungie destroyed my favorite gun and now I can't play how I want to anymore.' This is a problem because instead of nerfing weapons individually (which the game has always desperately needed), they make changes on a different basis. So although Bungie does see that fusion rifles are at a very low usage within the player population in the data they collect (I.e. fusion rifles mostly suck), Bungie also sees that certain outliers (I.e. certain fusion rifles in certain situations) are so insanely good in the right hands that they don't want to tweak all fusion rifles for fear of those particular fusion rifles being overpowered once people discover their utility. Because if fusion rifles get the significant buff they need without also preemptively nerfing a few very specific fusion rifles and the perks they intrinsically have (or can roll with), they really will be overpowered once their use is widespread. At least, this is the way Sage Merrill explained it.
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2 RepliesBcuz the streamers hate being killed by shottys/fusions hints the gun breaking nerfs
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4 RepliesMany people who say that fusions aren't bad are basically saying, "Yea this one fusion with max stability, rangefinder, and three unicorns wrecks in pvp". The point is that you shouldn't need a RNGesus roll to have a whole class of guns be useful (note: useful, not even asking for them to be good). The vast majority of fusions suck at the moment and that's the problem.
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Shotguns can only 1HKO from around 5m. And that's on a good day.
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Buuuuuttttttt Sols! One of our dev is OP with them so obviously fusion rifles are OP *rolls eye*
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They need to get that buff they were supposed to get, I'm still really good with my thesan though. https://youtu.be/W1v9Zn9zdq4 https://youtu.be/2LIWjq-0ZTo https://youtu.be/R2XcOrDyvKk
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Edited by PRINCE_ALI_1985: 2/5/2016 12:55:08 PMI remember when fusions were balanced dominating mid range ((shooty close and snipers far)) but now it's ruined because of snipers and streamers ((mostly streamers)) There argument was: charging a weapon in mid range for 1-2 seconds and kills me is OP nerf now and freaken Bungie listened. I used to main Plan C, Wizard 77 and PI but after they nerfed them I switched to Invective.
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True vanguard is a TOP TIER player, especially when it comes to snipes. HE IS KNOWN FOR HIS SNIPER SKILL. So, stop trying to find a new reason to bitch about snipers. Get over it. Git Gud Skrub.
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if you want an honest opinion I think it's because at a point when hard mode Vault of Glass was going on Bungie removed all large maps making snipers nearly useless, and as such making a mid range 1hit kill weapon extremely valuable, the problem was that they gave out a very powerful one called the Vex Mythoclast which pretty stomped anyone without it. likely that is the cause of the fusion rifle trashing, a series of unfortunate events that happened too close together. which Is honestly a shame because I really do want to use Fusion rifles in Crucible due to the uniqueness of them but they are kinda unreliable .
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TV could own on a fusion rifle. He's just good.
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22 RepliesEdited by Lechku: 2/5/2016 12:45:36 PMUse Thesan-FR4 from the gunsmith and get it with rangefinder. It wrecks and I use it frequently. If fusion rifles get what you want, it'll become a top tier weapon for sure and most likely OP since it's already ridiculously good.
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you do know that he was getting those snipes because of the Belicose? sheesh you sound like you are grasping at straws man
