It could spell the end for destiny.
I'm not one to to say "______ is going to kill destiny", in fact I've never been, this is the first time. but I have my fair share of reasons this time.
[b]Bungies lack of planned content[/b] or lack of willingness to give us an idea of what's to come, literally doesn't give players a reason to stick around. Even if the players aren't satisfied with how the game is now, there's no reason to stick around because bungie hasnt given any signs that they're trying to fix anything.
Here's what you actually do have to look forward to
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/21/bungie-announces-small-scale-destiny-valentines-day-event-crimson-days/
https://www.vg247.com/2016/01/25/bungie-sell-destiny-ammo-packs-real-money-microtransactions/
[b]heavy focus on pvp[/b] is starting to deter people who came for the pve aspect of the game and [b]microtransactions[/b] are seeming to become less and less cosmetic which is starting to deter more people because they don't want to see the game become pay to win. Ammo may seem arbitrary (it's sold at the gunsmith and xur right?) but it's a foot in the door for micros that involve weapons. What do you think the next step is from here? Skins? Tess exclusive weapons?
To be honest the division can't do much to kill destiny because bungie put it on its last leg on their own. With the division launching in a little over a month, and multiple destiny player demographics in shambles, the only thing the division did was be at the right place at the right time.
All it has to do is not suck
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/24/with-destiny-in-crisis-the-division-has-a-unique-chance-to-steal-its-players/#44e73b534a0b
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Edit: so almost 300 comments in and I want to clarify some stuff.
I know a lot of people have said different games were going to kill destiny. But this one is close enough for it to actually pull it off. But not by itself. Bungie did most of the work for them. Destiny and the division are both
Shooters
Open world
RPG
Loot based
Continuous multi-player
Blend of pve and pvp (light enabled crucible, darkness zones in the division)
Their differences
Third v first person
Real sci-fi v fantasy sci-fi
Many people will be drawn to it for its similarities to destiny rather than its differences. That coupled with the shape destiny is in now can mean an exodus of a large part of the player base. As long as it doesn't suck.
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As for everyone saying bungie confirmed the ammo micro as false, didn't they do the same thing about skill based match making?
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Edit 2: 450 comments and I guess I should clarify that I don't mean the division will kill destiny as soon as it launches.
If the division does take a lot of destiny's core players bungie is gonna have to build a new one.
We can agree bungie has gotten enough bad press to almost deter anyone from destiny on utterance of the name. That being said, new player or old player, they're most likely skeptical of buying destiny 2 and will most likely hold off on buying it until after it actually releases.
And when bungie can't get enough launch sales, that's when they die. Because I doubt activision will fund destiny 3 with those results.
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1 ReplyI've got 1100 hours into destiny. No other game will take the time like destiny does
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4 RepliesGot over 500 hours in destiny my money was well spent
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It might flop
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5 RepliesSTUPID STUPID STUPID. can't you realize that people play more than one game at a time?
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1 ReplyPeople praise so many games before they're released and then the forum laughs at them 3 days after release because everyone abandoned hyped new game.
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3 RepliesMoses will part the Red Sea on March 8 and all of Destiny will forever disappear into the Division. I have never seen a game work so hard to commit suicide. Good luck selling copies of Destiny 2, whenever you dumb_sses get around to releasing it.
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The game just doesn't add anything new. It's either pvp or pvp for the new stuff added in. The DLC Bungie adds only really adds like a few days of play time. The "expansion" TTK isn't really an expansion. To expand something, you have to add something on to the original content as well as keeping the original and the expanded in use. TTK has eliminated the whole base of the game and the DLC that came with it. TTK is like a new game with less content.
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1 ReplyHow about you wait for the game to come out before you pour the praise on
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Just downloaded the Beta on my PS4, waiting for the 29 to play it.
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8 RepliesYea yea sure. I heard this about CoD, fallout 4, halo masterchief collection, halo 5, blah blah blah. Sure well see.
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1 Reply[quote] I'm not one to to say "______ is going to kill destiny", [/quote] Proceeds to make a thread. Get a life
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9 RepliesWhy do people say destiny is gonna die Like bitch Cod aw is there and is being played Games that are much much better are out now and that game is still being played
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6 RepliesCompetition is always a win for the consumers. Hopefully it will make Bungie step up their game.
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I played the alpha for The Division and it left me wanting more. So I'm excited for the beta to start this Thursday so I can get my hands on it again. But I don't see The Division killing Destiny. Like you said, the similarities will pull players from Destiny. But I think the differences may deter some and send many others back. Now I don't doubt that The Division [b]can[/b] be successful. And that it [b]could[/b] become bigger than Destiny. But I do doubt it will kill destiny. [spoiler]By the way. The Division twitter account has been giving away beta codes. They post a link to an instagram pic that contains a few codes. First come first serve obviously. Usually around 7-8:00 I think.[/spoiler]
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I'll just leave this here. [spoiler]Doom.[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesNothing will kill Destiny lol. Silly statement.
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1 ReplyThis game is already dead, how many times can you kill something that's dead?
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2 RepliesI've ignored all of these posts, seen to many games that were gonna kill this. until this iron banner started. Now I'm reading and considering purchasing a ps4 and the division.
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Last bump
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1 ReplyThe one odd thing about The Division is that is a real world based RPG shooter. In a game like Destiny you can rationalize why you have to unload clip after clip into certain creatures. In The Division you are unloading clip after clip into guys with baseball bats and hoodies. It's a different concept that might not work.
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SUNK COST FALLACY LOOK IT UP
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3 RepliesVery long read below.... This was info on The Division back in 2013....lets see how many things have changed when it launchs compared to what was promised All credit to The_Ozymandias over on the PSN forums... http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-General/Tom-Clancy-s-The-Division-Everything-about-it-so-far/td-p/41926401 [spoiler]Tom Clancy's The Division: Everything about it so far... Options 21 replies 2307 views Edited Oct 26, 2013 Thought I'd bring this over from the Ubisoft forums. Just wanted to assemble a list of all the things I had noticed and anything other players had noticed from the interviews, gameplay demo, etc. If there is anything you noticed in the game that I missed please feel free to post it and I'll try to add it to the list. Parts of this have been taken from posts in this thread, the rest has been taking from interviews the devs have done or the gameplay demo. [b]New Additions[/b] Skills are bought using points, then can be assigned to the bumpers on the controller [b]Basics[/b] Persistent Open World Tactical Cover Based Online RPG Shooter. Devs have repeatedly stressed RPG which could mean dice rolls instead of accurate bullet physics. ("Unlike such rivals as Destiny and Borderlands, The Division isn't selling itself as a hybrid, and Massive is planting its feet firmly on the side of the dice roll." Taken from the Eurogamer 2 article) Always online (Eurogamer article interviewing Alain Corre) Able to play solo through most of the content other than specifically marked group events Team Size 4 players + 1 companion drone No Classes, pick the skills you want, the weapon(s) you want, and go Able to see team's skill selections so you can pick skills to complement the team Seamlessly move between solo, co-op, and PVP Whole world open from the start Crafting mentioned in interviews, no details revealed Securing areas will influence your game world, example in Rev3 interview was that the police will be able to start patrolling the area and make the area safer. Also mentioned bringing back power and water to the area as possible objectives. Each player has their own Persistent world, when players join a team they will share the team leader's persistent world for the duration of that team (Stated in the Gamespot interview) Only one server, no picking the wrong server (not likely to be cross platform servers due to PS4 still having a certification process and Xbox One not having one) Game scales based on whether you team or not. More enemies, more rewards, better XP, more loot. Release is currently scheduled for "Winter 2014" they at one point commented a year and a half away so that would put it Holiday Season 2014 not Q1 2014 (1 1/2 year specified in IGN interview 2) Ingame Voice chat system, setup to be Voice Over IP so you can hear your team from anywhere Game built to be added to, will not have sequels. (Gamespot interview) Helicopter flying on the in game map, no idea what the helicopter does, whether we can shoot it, whether it's involved in extraction, or whether it's just a little touch. The watch he uses to access the map, skills, etc is called a Smart Watch The UI is displayed for the agent via a special contact lens There are red lines above the players head which include the street name and the tag Dark Zone, this allows players to see whether they're in a Dark Zone or not There is a currency. Which ties in with the Vendors. A vehicle can be seen driving in the distance at 2:31 in the gameplay demo. It only shows for a second. Game will have a Black Market (Auction House) (Ubisoft Blog) Back market will take a cut of whatever you sell your items for (Ubisoft Blog) Some form of crowd control abilities in the game. The Skill Indomitable says it protects the operative from crowd control. Guilds currently not planned to have a member cap (Ubisoft Blog 2) No AI companions (Metro article, bottom interview section) Game world is persistent and continues to evolve while the player is offline (OXM article) Extraction always triggers a 90 second timer (Debunks theory that helo is part of extraction due to the possibility of it taking longer to get there than 90 seconds, Eurogamer article 2) [b]Main Story[/b] "we had said that they have created an agency called The Division. [This is] our last hope when everything else fails. So when the Order 51 goes live, these agents get activated, and their job is to save what remains and try to restore society. They were embedded in civilian life since you can't trust that communication would work, or that transportation would work. They are already in place and have ordinary jobs as, you know, doctors, police officers, military, engineers, scientists, all those kind of jobs. Once they get activated they take their go-bag, they go out and try to save what remains." Game has a main story that involves finding cure to stop the virus. Virus is Man-made Playing 3 weeks after the virus was released meaning you are in the middle of the apocalypse instead of the usual post-apocalyptic gameplay. Dynamic Content system: As you are running around, new content is spawning making each playthrough different Role as a Division agent is to help restore order. Does not sound like we'll be able to interfere with the police, etc. NPCs will cause the problems, we'll clean them up. Game is not post-apocalyptic, but you also aren't stopping something before it happens. The game is what the developers call "Mid-crisis", the virus has happened, but society isn't lost yet. "The Division" (name of the organization you are a part of) is a group of self sufficient operatives specially trained for dealing with disaster situations. Game is based on Operation Dark Winter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter) and Presidential Directive 51 (http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/nspd-51.htm) Both are real world events and they indicate the potential that events in the game could happen in our lifetime. There won't be a true "Go here, do this" type story to the game. Instead the game's story will be revealed through your actions, where you go, what you do, which locations you secure. (IGN Interview 2 specific section) [b]Companion Gaming[/b] Companion gaming has it's own progression including buffing allies, debuffing enemies, marking targets, and shooting enemies Companion gaming available on Tablets and Smartphones (will most likely depend on smartphone specs and OS) Companion gaming will be free to play. Gaming Illustrated interview seems to indicate the app itself will be free so people can get an idea of what the main game is like before they decide to buy it. Drone will be able to buff your team, debuff the enemy, heal your team, fire missiles, and possibly fire bullets (Taken from Anthony Shelton's video) Can be played separately from console gamers (Eurogamer article 2) Second app will be available that allows access to the game's economy/trading/black market (Eurogamer Article 2) [b]Factions[/b] Cannot play as unfriendly faction (most likely meaning terrorists, gangs or other government groups: CIA, FBI, etc.)(Ubisoft Blog) There will be "Faction Gameplay" (Whether this means there are rivaling factions within The Division or whether this is just their term for guilds/clans/squads/etc is unknown at the moment)(Ubisoft Blog) [b]HUD[/b] Health and ammo on bar and in number format Active skills or perks shown below health bar Group members shown with status, health, perks, AFK status, and a symbol for whether they are playing on the ground or from a tablet. Group members shown with clan tag Able to scan NPC's for infection Also able to scan for the cause of death on a body Players have points to spend on unlocking other skills. XP awarded for kills. More xp for harder NPC's Damage output shown when shot lands Items highlighted - Food, water, Med kit, Weapon type Map in the police station can be used to update your map. Possibly allows you to find events that other cannot. New weapon shows name, damage range, accuracy range, magazine size, and attachment capabilities Extraction countdown of 90 seconds shown after flare launches Enemy players' names and clan name shown after player uses Pulse Red lines connecting close enemies. White line connecting teammates. Level of Event at construction site displayed as Level 3 [b]Matchmaking[/b] "With this game we try to match people with compatible playstyles to make sure that people you meet online are actually people you want to play with and not just some random people." Also in the Rev3 interview it mentions if a player has a baby it'll try to match them up with players who are ok with each other going AFK for a few minutes to deal with things. [b]Character Customization[/b] Face and Clothing customization confirmed in Gamespot interview Arm pads, Hoodie with jacket over top (Two styles of jackets over hoodies, one with hood up, one with hood down), Filter mask, Knit Cap, gloves (http://i.imgur.com/L8EPnaj.jpg) Body armor, bandolier of some sort, thigh double magazine pack Knee pads, mismatched gloves (Megan's left hand is wearing a mitt her right is a fingerless glove), scarf, thigh holster (http://i.imgur.com/eSLNPee.jpg) Bronson is wearing a pouch on his left thigh. (http://i.imgur.com/CdeG0lu.jpg)[/spoiler]
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4 RepliesDid you even play rainbow 6. In the first month that game was out it was the worst connection issue I have ever seen Now ubisoft did finally patch it up and now it runs pretty smooth but they have been releasing some pretty under par games. Division looks great really excited for this,but I will be waiting a few days for some reviews on this one
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3 RepliesStop with these posts. Aslong as people are comparing games to desting destiny will survive. Fact of the matter not alot of people play games a year after theyre released destiny has a huge community after being around almlst two years. Most of your girlfriends probably never stuck around that long
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I dont think it will "kill" Destiny, but probably just chop off both its legs and maybe an arm. and I hope it does tbh, I'm intrigued by The Division and I'm looking to get into another game
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3 Replies'Real Sci fi vs fantasy Sci fi' You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.