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Edited by OutlawRacer666:
1/5/2016 9:21:25 AM
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Let's talk about the real problem. Shotguns.
Shotguns are still too OP man. They are cheap one shot kills and quite frankly it's annoying for a few reasons.
1. Special ammo is to easy to control now, so if you control it you can win easier.
2. They require 0 skill to blink shottys someone.
3. Everyone is bitching about snipers, when that actually requires skill.
4. Shotguns are still the number one crutch weapon in PvP.
5. The so called nerfs haven't done shit.
SHOTGUNS SHOULD NOT ONE SHOT BODY KILL. ONE SHOT HEADSHOT, YES. NOT BODY KILL. IT TAKES 0 SKILL TO SLIDE SHOTTY.
Go ahead and make comments on my PlayStation style, it doesn't make my argument any less true. It shows how feeble your attempts are.
All the salty tears of the scrubs on this post is great!.
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3 RepliesShotguns and snipers are balanced, maybe a little OP but defiantly balanced. Where's the love for the fusion rifles and sidearms?
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The thing is snipers don't really require skill either
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2 RepliesWhat if we made shotguns into third person perspective, just like swords. That way there is no zooming in. That way they are still powerful, but hard to use
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Shotguns are easy to counter now and being killed by a center mass shotgun blast makes sense. You're being peppered with a multitude up high velocity lead in a cqc standoff, what do you expect. The new damage falloff I them makes it easy to back pedal while firing and kill them with ease.
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Urafag
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Ammo plain and simple. Special weapons are not meant to be used as frequently as they are.
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[quote]Snipers are OP man. They are cheap one shot kills and quite frankly it's annoying for a few reasons. 1. Special ammo is to easy to control now, so if you control it you can win easier. 2. They require 0 skill to aim assist head shot someone. 3. Everyone is bitching about shotguns, when that actually requires skill. 4. Snipers are still the number one crutch weapon in PvP. 5. The so called nerfs haven't done shit. SNIPERS SHOULD NOT ONE HIT KILL. IT TAKES 0 SKILL TO DRAGSCOPE, QUICKSCOPE & NO SCOPE. Go ahead and make comments on my PlayStation style, it doesn't make my argument any less true. It shows how feeble your attempts are. All the salty tears of the scrubs on this post is great!.[/quote]
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Bad b8. Bad you.
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[quote] SHOTGUNS [b]SHOULD NOT[/b] ONE SHOT BODY KILL. ONE SHOT HEADSHOT, YES. NOT BODY KILL. IT TAKES 0 SKILL TO SLIDE SHOTTY. [/quote] Dayum you stupid.
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Are u serious...
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tbh shotguns are fine. easily countered as well.
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I wish the ranged shotguns had the lower impact and the high impact went to lower range wider spread shotguns. I also wish rangefinder was gone the way of shot package.
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Lets say that a wild OP on the loose breaks into your home and threatens to murder your family, and you have a shotgun. He starts to run at you. If you aim at his chest and pull the trigger when he is 10 feet away, will he die? If the answer is yes, shotguns are balanced in Destiny. If the answer is no, reconsider your answer.
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Shotgun guy is not the problem. The no skill scrub thst is weapon most used shotgun guy is the problem. This is the guy who can't even so much as equip a primary unless he is completely out of special ammo. By the way, a sarcastic shout out to Bungie for selling Invective during Iron Banner week. Anyway, to the guy who runs around with their crutch equipped the entire match, go away.
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Thank you OP for giving us a fine example of how the forums have dissolved into nerf posts. Thank you, for being a part of the problem. Satire or not, you're not making things in this game any better.
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The ironic thing is that in some ways shotguns wereore balanced when everyone had a quote unquote good one. Why? Because everyone HAD one. And that evens the playing field. And even then i wasnt afraid of them and still did well because i play enough and am decent at the game lol. Its not rocket science. Everything ia relative. The better players will always be better. I have two fusion rifles just waiting if they ever just get rid of shotguns lol. But why do i like shotguns. Because i can move in close and push objectives and support my team... Capture pts etc. Its more engaging in cq. If i want to support from far i can still use a scout even worst case
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Eh. Shoddys have seen their fair share of brutal nerfs.....to the point to where you have to be REALLY close...embarrassingly close in fact. They have become SO niche that they're kind of crap to use. Anymore, if you get gauged, you either were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or you just got plain ol out played.....the shotgun has become a lot harder.
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I hate shotguns. Nuff said.
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9 RepliesI disagree with the body shot thing. They definitely still need a slight reduction thing though. I get killed from miles away by conspiracy theory still. I'd say all range perks need to be removed entirely from the class, as that becomes the only desirable thing to have. (not from middle column, but the main perk slots. Basically just rangefinder)
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Hey only 2 shotguns in the game can one shot kill you and it just 30% of the time that they do and you always need to melee right after making the shot and with all the delays the game know was your opponent gets like a 3 seconds window to just make you his B.i.t.c.h and you telling me shotguns are OP stop complaining and use them then if a gun is OP thennn USEEEEEEE THEEEEMMMM and dont complain so much
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3 RepliesThey just need to give us pillows to fight with..
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Edited by Xero: 1/5/2016 2:29:29 PMYou know....I used to be anti-shotgun...but a lot of that had to do with constant death of sliding shotgunners. Even with Iron Banner, I started with my Hunter first. It being the lowest light level at the time. Now ironically it's the highest. Since getting the IB shotgun and just trying it out, I immediately saw the pros and cons of it. I was used to snipers and sidearms. Then auto/pulse rifles and handcannons. The change up was a refresher. Anyways, point being, that everyone will use ANY, if not ALL kinds of gun combos to get the most kills, in the easiest way possible. (AKA without dying) No secret to that, everyone will admit to doing it... Find someone who is using the same guns over and over? Just outwit them. Sliding shotgunners? Don't get too close. Throw a sticky at them, shoot them from a distance. One of two things is going to happen when you defeat someone with a set routine. They either avoid you, or they change their play style. That's what I admire most about the Crucible...the latter that is...
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Edited by CaptainW1nky: 1/5/2016 2:32:30 PMNot sure if troll or retarded. Shotguns are inconsistent. You can be at 3 feet and 1 shot someone the next time they are left alive. That would be like a 1000 yard getting a head shot and it having a 50/50 of them living or ducking off to cover. Unless your using a blade dancer you have to have the gun equipped when running around because it takes forever to switch anymore which puts you into those situations where the enemy is 5 feet away just outside the crap range of shotguns..... imagine a slow moving sniper that couldn't quick scope/switched weapons at a snails pace/was useless if the target wasn't 100 feet plus away. Anyone can camp in a corner quick scoping then switching to the last word to finish the tagged target off even myself. It's tough to run a shotgun with how crappy they have become. There is a total of 4 special choices. 2 are pretty crappy, ones been nerfed beyond nerfed the other has been left in touched and OP it's a no brainer which one people will choose. They will probably never get nerfed due to its the streamers method of play style and that's who they truly cater to.
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I agree to his post. The only shotgun I use in crucible is invective because it's really fun.
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8 RepliesAnd this is why I don't use regular shotguns in crucible anymore. Only the chaperone. An elegant and skill based weapon that rewards excellence and reflex
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1 ReplyShotguns and run and gunners are like the black sheep now i swear. Everything always comes back to them. Ppl get so butt hurt about being killed up close and dont realize it actually takes skill. Its clise quarters combat. If you are dieing a lot in close quarters maybe its because you arent able to defend yourself when somone brings the fight to you as much as you think lol. Everyone juat wants a free pass and to blame a weapon class that has already seen more nerfs than the entire game combined.
