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Edited by OutlawRacer666:
1/5/2016 9:21:25 AM
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Let's talk about the real problem. Shotguns.
Shotguns are still too OP man. They are cheap one shot kills and quite frankly it's annoying for a few reasons.
1. Special ammo is to easy to control now, so if you control it you can win easier.
2. They require 0 skill to blink shottys someone.
3. Everyone is bitching about snipers, when that actually requires skill.
4. Shotguns are still the number one crutch weapon in PvP.
5. The so called nerfs haven't done shit.
SHOTGUNS SHOULD NOT ONE SHOT BODY KILL. ONE SHOT HEADSHOT, YES. NOT BODY KILL. IT TAKES 0 SKILL TO SLIDE SHOTTY.
Go ahead and make comments on my PlayStation style, it doesn't make my argument any less true. It shows how feeble your attempts are.
All the salty tears of the scrubs on this post is great!.
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#Destiny
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Look, a complaining Warlock main.
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1 ReplyEdited by joey big guns: 1/5/2016 8:10:52 PM"Shotguns should not kill you with one shot in CQC it's just not fair." This is all I could interpret from your words. Shotguns have been nerfed so much and ppl still complain? I'm beginning to think that the problem is no let the guns, it's the morons who run into them. Do you even have a concept of how weapons work? Well, judging from your statement I can't expect you to understand. Here's how I will try to help your silly little mind understand this. Go into the game and travel to...the Moon, let's go to the Moon. Equip a shotgun, HC. Find something flat in front of you to shoot. Pull out that HC and aim at the wall, see that little hole or mark, that's how big the bullet is. Now pull out that shotgun of yours and do the same, see that huge ass spot that was shot, now imagine that was a body and tell me they should live through a shotgun body shot at close range.
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Son you should worry less about what other use in training, and be more worried about yourself! With this I'm afraid I won't be able to take you on the next war.
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Don't really see all that many shotguns anymore. Don't find them all that great either
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Edited by blasphemous_jerk: 1/5/2016 7:12:25 PMMap design and player mobility are the problems. There are too many areas congested with cover or that are downright close-quarters exclusive. This makes the usefulness of snipers and scouts spotty at best. Plus, every class has unlimited and equally mobile sprint functions. Bungie needs to reduce mobility based on class physicality (pvp [b][i][u]ONLY[/u][/i][/b]). It makes sense for hunters to have extended sprint duration. But Titans are weighed down by armor and equipment, and Warlocks are held back by air friction on their thick robes. Make Titans the [b]TANKS[/b] like they were always meant to be by improving overall damage resistance. And buff Warlock supers to be even more deadly and improve the recharge rate of their abilities. Back in Fall 2014, people complained about the aesthetic ambiguity of the classes. But a lack of difference is also present in their functionality - albeit to a lesser extent. Alas, this change of reduced mobility would displease the children (and the adults with the mental capacity of children) that plague this game, so the best you'll get from anyone at Bungie is "get over it." PS, quitting asking for nerfs. Look for ways to [b]buff[/b] things instead.
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The only way to fix them is take them out of the game, maps are small and therefore easy to get close. Even if they nerf them you can still finish a player off with a punch, so what do you do then? I haven't played much lately apart from a few hours on the iron banner and tbh it was a good and varied range of both primary and secondary weapons I died from as I can remember.
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I might have a solution: Undo the most recent shotgun nerf, but [b]change the archetype of [u]ALL[/u] long range, high impact shotguns[/b]. Shotguns as a whole aren't the problem, it's just the long range, high impact ones.
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I am ok with shotgun usage here and there, they have a purpose in this game. BUT if I see someone using a shotgun like a primary and I kill them, I sure as hell hope they like Liptons, cause someone is about to get T-Bagged.
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Trade and balances man. Snipers are harder but you get the safety of being 48349205 feet away while shotguns are extremely risky but easier to use once you get there. I think its the synergy with other things that make them [i]seem[/i] OP, like flying to your target with a flying knee and two air dodges of twilight garrison. People dont expect it and thus dont adapt fast/well enough. Same can be said with snipers choosing select/new lines or quick/drag sniping. Both are pretty dang balanced atm and I think some just confuse someone with skill for OP
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Edited by SCI 22: 1/5/2016 7:10:05 PMLets talk about the real problem. The whines of OP. [spoiler]No, I don't use a shotgun.[/spoiler]
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if i get within arm's reach, i want a shotgun to one-shot body kill. a few meters away i agree it shouldn't be an instant kill (looking at you, Conspiracy Theory-D), but if i'm still breathing and i'm right on top of you, i deserve the kill for a chest shot as much as i do for a headshot.
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gr8 b8 m8 i apreci8 gr8 b8
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Let's talk about the real problem...Economic Inequality
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satire...right? .....right?
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Shotgun to the chest wold definitely kill with one shot. I run shotgun when I'm up close. I pop a slug then mele
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Wtf! I hope this is satire.If it isn't just please stop,its embarrassing
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1 ReplyJust like it how it takes skill to camp around a corner and snipe? Why don't you use your brain a little bit. Don't just sit there hard scoping around a corner and get flanked by a shotgun. Move your spot and use your damn radar. If you see one rushing then -blam!-ing back up and jump around. It's not that hard. I actually think both snipers and shotguns take skill if I'm being honest. Snipers have to know lanes to shoot and be in good positions. Shotgunners have to know when to rush and time their movement. Stop your whining OP. The only salt is you for making this goddamn post.
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It would be great if Bungie would buff shotguns to what they used to be just so I can listen to people cry that they want them the way they are now.
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I'm not the biggest fan of shotguns either, but I'm at the point where I just don't care anymore. I'm suck of nerfs nowadays because they really are unnecessary. We all know that if Bungie nergs something, they will absolutely destroy and something else will become even better. You've just got to learn to adept because there are ways to counter it.
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if i kill you with a shotty its YOUR fault wrong place right time
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I used snipers but I was told they require no skill and are for skrubs now I use Invective and it is AMAZING but hey people like you never go away
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2 RepliesThe real problem is posts like these.
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Most of the time I shotgun melee. There isn't enough range to one shot someone like before. If you are right up in their face then yeah it should be one shot. Otherwise no.
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Stfu bich
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blink has been nerfed to shit, it's got like a 3 second cooldown now, you'd be lucky to reach someone unharmed using blink.
