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Edited by Lorenlyr: 11/19/2015 4:01:05 PM
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[Update] What's happening in the crucible right now is beyond good and evil

Update, 5 pm, 19th: Did a checkup. I have rewatched a game this morning. There were 60 kills with primary weapons: Scouts: 3 kills Automatic Rifles: 4 kills Puls Rifles: 53 Well... I'm a PvP-Player. I don't think I'm a bad player, neither am I the best. And actually I don't complain about OP/Nerf stuff and so. But what's going on right now in the crucible (Iron Banner) is really ridiculous. You have literally no chance at all against people with pulse rifles when you use other weapons. Therefore: Everybody has to use it. No diversity at all. And I hate to play pulse rifle. I hope there will be a better balancing soon, otherwise it will kill my fun. Additionally: 4 Errorcodes in 1 hour. This kills my fun too. e.1/ It's "funny" to see that people have no culture of debate and have to flame. Sorry guys, you can't provoke me with that. e.2/ For today, it has killed my fun and motivation. Maybe I'll try it tomorrow again. e.3t/ It's a new day. Let's have a look.

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  • Pulse rifles aren't good in general, in fact they were nerfed for year two. They are the best because everything else sucks, because they were nerfed. Don't scream nerf pulse rifles, scream buff everything else.

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    • Edited by Bosnia911: 11/19/2015 5:31:36 PM
      I've been using The Jade Rabbit and have no issues at all. I am waiting for the year 2 MIDA.

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    • Saw someone get a 10 kills streak with a high rate of fire auto-rifle, Opinion instantly invalidated.

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      • This iron banner is better then the "insta kill" met from y2. You complain about all the people using pulse rifles but y1 used to be 2 weapons!

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        • I use the new hand cannon. Don't have any problem beating nerwins. I got a good roll though. Red death is a beast though.

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        • I get more AR kills than that on my own (usually, if I join at the start)

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        • I still rock the last word. Just need to pull down on the d pad as you fire. Once you get the hang of it you can still destroy people. It's still the fastest ttk.

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        • I do pretty well with jade rabbit

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          • Edited by 7riton: 11/19/2015 3:01:49 PM
            Tell me if I'm right: All they had to do was nerf Thorn and fix TLW Actually buff Autos and Fusions. All the other crap they did made no sense to me. Such as, nerfing HC base stats. No one was saying HC are OP just stupid Thorn. Multi-tool is the ideal scout. Just make scouts perform similarly to multi-tool. Why is this so f*ckn hard for Bungie to understand. Seriously? WTF????!!!

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            • I agree, at least when hand cannons were on top I still ran into plenty of pulse rifles and scout rifle users, right now I rarely see anything but pulse rifles

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            • For me the doctrine of passing with icebreaker melts all pulse rifle users and shotgunners

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              • I'm rocking the banner with my tlaloc and competing just fine against pulse rifles. I've also saw a few supercells and monte Carlos

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                • Im using the last word and get about 5-9 kill a game with it

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                • When I feel like having fun in PvP, which is 90% of the time, I use TLW and a sniper. If it's try hard pants time, then it's a pulse rifle and a sniper.

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                • Boolean Gemini is pretty good

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                  • My scout wrecks people. I know how you feel though. Sometimes it feels like I have to use a pulse to even remotely compete with everybody else.

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                  • I'm sorry but the argument of you hating to play with pulse rifles makes no sense. I hated playing with hand cannons. But they shouldn't have been nerfed just because I hated using them.(hand cannon nerf was a little much

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                    • Hawkmoon, dis, Tlaloc, and Suros seem to be the only competitive guns that aren't pulse rifles. I think they shouldn't nerf pulse rifles, just buff other guns. They should fix the deplorable accuracy of hand cannons. They should up the damage with autos (maybe just the headshot damage so only skilled players will get fast time to kills.) For scout rifles, I think they actually should nerf the pulse rifle range a bit so that pulse rifles don't dominate all ranges.

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                    • Yea pulses are the best everyone knows that but there are a few others that can compete...hawkmoon cause of 3 bonus bullets...zhalo supercell....adept auto rifle from trials if u get range n stability perks...n a couple others but yea I agree not much out there to compete

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                    • Gunna have to disagree with you, I switch between pulse, AR, and Scout rifles depending on map and team layout. Yes I have a Nirwin's but I also wrecked with my suros and rabbit. I can count on two hands how any times I saw another pulse take me out. It was usually an AR or Scout. This was after straight grinding to rank 3.

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                      • [quote]What's happening right now in the crucible is beyond good and evil[/quote] [quote]is beyond good and evil[/quote] [quote]beyond[/quote] Year 2 No Land Beyond will be coming and be the new meta, confirmed.

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                        • Edited by Dooodley: 11/19/2015 12:32:53 PM
                          Yesterday I decided to use Hung Jury as my primary. It was ok but despite being overall 316 it felt like the TTK was significally longer than with the pulse rifles. Hence, today I'm going full cheese: Primary: Hawksaw with perfect balance and Headseeker OR Red Death Special: RR4 with LITC OR Invenctive Heavy: Truth or some legendary LMG I've never been a fan of handcannons but I sure prefered that meta over this one - for the simple reason that everyone had the same perks on their weapons. Now it's down to RNG and what perks we get on our pulse rifles. Could really use a Y2 Mida btw.

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                        • I agree. In y1 you could counter thorn or tlw with red death. Now you only have a pulse rifle to counter a pulse rifle. Great job introducing variety there bungie

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                        • But, the Zarinaea exists...

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                        • That's why it's called a meta, "diversity" is what arc-type of the meta gun you were using. First half of year one it was auto rifles. Suros Regime was [b]the[/b] crucible. The vex mythoclast too but it's reign was short lived. I'm sure there are year one day one players that remember the first iron banner. Then auto rifles got nerfed to the ground and guess what got buffed? Hand cannons. Then everything was last word, thorn, hawkmoon. The trifecta of the crucible. Personally that was my favorite meta, a good aim was needed to compensate for the recoil. And now hand cannons went from God tier to trash tier, so now it's pulse rifles turn in the meta throne. Pulse rifles were never bad, nor were they ever good in destiny. No one uses them, unless it was the exotic guns and even then it's rare that they would be in an average load out. I would agree that there needs to be a weapon tweak, but for now you gotta stop being stubborn disliking pulses and straight up deal with it. You want diversity? Use a scout rifle, those are always good. This is only primaries we talkin about too. Specials and heavy is a different story.

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                          • I feel you. Before Destiny 2.0 it was ThornThornThorn now it's PulsePulsePulse. I hate pulse rifles too, but they kill me from the other side of the map. The flinching i get when i'm sniping and get hit by a pulse is insane too. They are good against Snipers, Shotguns and every other Primary. So yeah.. i hope for a nerf.

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