Are you using keyboard and mouse? No judgement but when I see people making small circles like that on the menu screen it looks like a mouse movement to me. If so, did it help your gameplay? I've thought about getting a xim4.

You used a shotgun at first? That's cheap.

I was unaware of this tournament.

Original Topic: Broken PvP Setups [spoiler]Setup 1: [b]Full team of sunbreakers with Forgemaster on[/b] - Self explanatory. Setup 2: [b]Defender Titan: No backup plans + Rangefinder Shotgun/Chaperone + MAXIMUM STRENGTH + Relentless + Unbreakable + Weapons of Light[/b] : This gives you the ability to get a constantly regenerating strong overshield after every shotgun kill. Comboing maximum strength with relentless and no backup plans gives you a 25 second force barrier and a 25 second force barrier respawn time, thus allowing you to look at your melee ability as a 'timer' for your overshield, and when it goes away you can immediately get another overshield. With Weapons of Light you can bodyshot kill with chaperone at max range. Setup 3: [b]Full team of Thorns[/b], this isn't really a 'setup', but Thorn is still unfair. It's a 3 bodyshot kill or 3 headshot kill. This gun requires no headshots for a 3 shot kill. Headshots mean nothing. Other handcannons need headshots. Plus, you can see people through walls who you tag and they're weak for like 20 seconds because of Damage over Time. yep, still broken. Setup 4: [b]Defender Titan: Weapons of Light + 1000 Yard Stare/High impact sniper[/b] : Bodyshot sniper kills while under the effect of Weapons of Light. Get everyone in your bubble. Have fun. Setup 5: Full team of [b]Sniper with Luck in the Chamber[/b]s, "Eerine RR4" or some gun like that Setup 6: [b]Sunsinger Warlock: Firebolt Grenades + Viking Funeral + Touch of Flame + Special Weapon with Grenadier + Maximum Discipline + Helmet with bonus super energy from grenade kills + Voidfang vestments[/b] : Just chuck grenades at people and shoot them once in the body with anything other than an autorifle. Insanely fast grenade regeneration with the armor. Spawn with grenade energy. Setup 7: [b]Stormcaller Warlock: Amplitude + High Impact Hand cannon + Claws of Ahamkara + Maximum Strength + Shotgun with One Man Army/Chaperone[/b] : Shoot people once in the body with the hand cannon then literally just snipe them with your melee for a kill. You can do this twice because of claws. Melees recharge every 25 seconds but if you are getting kills too fast which is very possible then simply switch to the shotgun which charges your melee. Shit, maybe just always use the shotgun with the melee. There's a loophole for you. Setup 8: [b]Nightstalker Hunter: Smoke + Voidwall grenade combo'ing + MAX STR/DISC + Ahamkara's Grasps[/b] : Press both grenade and melee at the same time and if it lands on someone's feet they die. No getting out of it. They're basically glued to a voidwall. Tbh this should actually get fixed where you can't throw grenade and melee at the same time. Also little known fact if you have evade and use evade while an arcbolt/firebolt/axion is chaining it won't hit you. Setup 9: [b]4/5 defender titans with Crest of Alpha Lupi + 1/2 gunslingers[/b] : Have the defender titans repeatedly spawn orbs by popping bubbles. This generates 3 orbs per pop, you need 7/8 orbs for your super so you need a minimum of 3 defenders to pop bubbles to charge a golden gun but once you have 4 defenders you can continually generate orbs. So if you play control get 4 defenders and 2 golden guns. Then have the defneders all clump up, continually spawn orbs while the hunters can run around with golden gun 24/7 and return to the mass of orbs to recharge. The defenders can do a swell job of defending themselves. No one is going to rush them or the golden gun lol. [/spoiler]

Anything with hopscotch http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/mebobaloo/video/12534795

My Favourite setup is Gunslinger + Young Ahamkara's Spine + double throwing knives + max discipline. Two Tripmines that last an age plus two throwing knives can lead to some horrible, horrible streaks. Body shot with most weapons and tap the knife, extremely quick kill at close ranges. Want to deny a revive in Trials? Slap two Tripmines next to the orb. You can absolutely shut down heavy, revives and even use Tripmines as stickies in a pinch. It's my favourite out of all the classes for absolutely lethal neutral play, you've almost always got something you can throw at people! Post-mortems for days too because the Tripmines last so long someone will inevitably walk into one.

[quote]every cringe worthy setup/pvp build which is undoubtedly broken and requires less skill on the user's behalf.[/quote] Effective planning is a skill. Min/maxing is a skill. Playing to your strengths is a skill.

[b]Nirwens Mercy/Hawksaw, 1000 Yard stare, Boltcaster/Truth.[/b] Lol my usual setup Edit: I use Darkdrinker I love it

Sweet, will try on some noobs later. So the sunsinger spawns with grenades too with the voidfang?

The defender one takes a lot of set up to be viable you need no back up plans and a ranged shotty and max strength to effectively use it, that's not cheap it's smart

So everyone should just pvp the way you think it good right?? Auto rifles only. No sniper. No shotgun. Fusion rifles ok? Only if they have a long charge time though. Oh and have a heavy equipped but you better not even think about picking that ammo up. Rockets are cheap. LMG is cheap. Swords are cheap. Using a solar based subclass? Don't even think of using burn perks. That's cheap. Using jump? DON'T! It makes your actual location slightly more unpredictable. Cheap. Switching guns in the match?? Completely unacceptable, take a lap. (Cheap) Etc, etc. Dot dot dot ... ...!!111onewonwun!1!

You lost all credibility when you said broken and Defender Titan in the same sentence......

LOL OP listed defender Titan as an OP setup. Are you -blam!-ing kidding me. And not only did you list it once, you listed it twice! Do you even play Destiny?