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Edited by ZephyrsAvenger: 11/4/2015 9:32:41 AM
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If you use Sunbreaker in Crucible

You are bad and you should feel bad. DISCUSS Edit: I have decided to add my opinion in here instead of posting it constantly, so here you guys go --------------------------------------------------- What makes the Sunbreaker so OP is the massive damage output to massive damage reduction ratio that it has. This is a crucial factor for supers. The shield of a super is mostly dependent on the Range, the Damage output, and the time it takes to generate that damage output. -Supers like Nova Bomb and Fist of Havoc have a high shield value because of the time they take for their damage output to be realized. It is low, so it seems only fair that they get a shield for the one time they use it. -Supers like Bladedancer and Stormcaller have a relatively low range, thus making them more vulnerable on long range encounters. A less powerful shield generates as a balance for this matter, although I have questioned this shield before on Bladedancers considering the Blink/Super combo. -Supers like Golden Gun (and in my opinion Sunbreaker) have both a long range and a significant time to generate this output. A shield would in this case be a weird thing to give these classes, since over all effective primary weapon ranges these supers are effectively dropping enemies. So no shield should be granted to both these supers. I've decided to exclude Nightstalker, Defender and Sunsinger, because I think of these classes as rather supportive. It could be argued that Sunsinger belongs to the second group, but given the fact that it's effect is to charge abilities faster rather then to focus on a specific damage output I wouldn't place it there. This is why Sunbreaker is OP. Every other ability is very well balanced (grenades are on a good standard and the melee grants burn and even melting point which can be quite useful indeed.) HoS however is with the given super standards very unbalanced. I hope this made my opinion clear to you. ---------------------------------------------------
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  • QUICKLY! We need a doctor! We have a scrub with 3rd degree burns for being a little bitch!

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    • Here what they are gonna do to the hammer. 1 shot. Range of a golden(but can't zoom). No splash damage. Kill hurt you. Am I missing anything else?

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      • Let me try fishing as well. If you pay a hunter in crucible you are bad. You need things like blink keen scout shadestep, quick draw to even get any kills.

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        • Did this warlock ever tell you the fourth horseman is your friend

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        • Lol cry some more.

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        • If you use the nightfall quest conspiracy theory you suck

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        • Edited by Wolf: 11/5/2015 6:35:25 PM
          I main a hunter and has been my only toon since the beginning (yes I do have a titan but he is a packmule if my vault gets full) and I find this post bs its a super its spouse to kill and do massive damage its also the tank class there spouse to be the bullet sponge think of them as the cabal of guardians im glad its gard to kill one in the curable because it puts more of a challenge for me deal with it or shut up

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        • Bet a dollar if you click on this guys profile he is one of the two A. Has been playing a hunter this entire time and is now butt hurt he gets killed in crucible B. has three hunters. [spoiler]personally I think it's B[/spoiler]

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          • It's part of the game?

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            • BUTTHURT where are you? Zyphers hunter needs some cream. Some Titan came up from behind and molested him.

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            • Oh look another whiny 12yr old salty huntard

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            • I've always mained a hunter for PVE, but in TTK I switched my pvp main (for trials at least) from warlock to Titan. I'm never going back.

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            • Edited by DwyerCA: 11/5/2015 6:16:32 PM
              Alright, as a Titan main, I can agree that Sunbreaker needs toning down, but just because something is better than another thing doesn't make its users bad. Sure, there will be a lot of Sunbreaker users that are bad, equally true to hunters, warlocks and the other Titan subclasses. Last meta, when TLW and Thorn ran the crucible, there were a lot of bad users, sure, but there were a lot of skilled users. This is how a metagame works, some things shine well above the average mediocrity, such as high stability pulse rifles, high range and impact shotguns, 31+ impact snipers, Sunbreaker Titans, etc. Until there is another crucible rebalance there are two things you can do: die to the meta and get frustrated and whine because you're so indie that you don't want use the best guns, or you can join them. Bungie has the numbers, they know what the players are using, but these things take time to adjust accordingly. [spoiler]Feel free to shit on me for my mediocre stats and ~500k medal score, here let me make it easier: http://destinytracker.com/destiny/crucible/xbox/idwyer[/spoiler]

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            • Hunter...

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            • Edited by Infamousme: 11/4/2015 4:16:20 PM
              I finally gave in and leveled my hunter. What are you clowns complaining about? Nightstalker was made for pvp. Keen scout basically gives you omg wall hax. Your super tracks opponents just like the hammer and removes anyone's active super. Smoke grenades are deadly. Vortex grenades kill quickly. I can shoot a guy, watch him take cover, and know exactly when he's coming out to shoot due to marking ability. I have NO sympathy for any hunter. Your entire subclass is amazing. Titans get 6 hammers.

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              • The melee is seriously bugged, a lot of the time the melee doesn't deal melee damage. Just burn damage. Or it deals melee damage but no burn. Also I don't want to hear about nerfs unless we're getting extended melee range and firebolt grenade.

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                • Ikr! Used it once and felt so cheap (yet so pumped at the same time.)

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                • I will put money on this person mains a hunter.

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                  • Sorry that some of us know how to metagame and the rest of you don't. If you can't beat them, join them. In my case, I can beat them and I joined them.

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                  • IT IS A NEW GAME BASICALLY A NEW PLAYING FIELD WITH WHOLE NEW CLASSES ADAPT AND GET USED TO IT!!!

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                  • Oh please this again? Look I'm terrible at crucible unless its control and I'm not that great at it either. But even as bad as I am I've shut down my fair share of sunbreakers just adapt and learn... Besides the ability runs out so fast unless the opposition huddles up it gets you 3-4 kills at best unlike blade dancer that keeps building on each kill... Oh btw I've found sniper shots work best just need high impact output, 2 shots at most

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                    • HoS is not as op as people think it is....

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                    • Yep yep

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                    • I kill Hammer Titans all the time. Yesterday, a Hammer Titan pinned me down by C in Exodus Blue. I was in the little room beside the main entrance. He popped his super, so I ran through the door right at him. I slide, he throws a panic hammer and misses, and i pump three Invective shells into his face. I kill them frequently with Stormtrance and occasionally with my primary, but this was the first time I killed one with a shotgun and walked away.

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                    • They aren't so op when they take a tether to the face now are they?

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                      • Edited by SiKoMaNTiS: 11/5/2015 1:14:33 PM
                        Yeah that neutral game is SOOOO good [spoiler]Kappa[/spoiler] In all seriousness, its still a handicapped class due to it being on a titan. Terrible exotic armor, trash melee, below avg-avg nades, and only one of the passive perks is viable So yeah, go f[b]u[/b]ck ya self

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