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10/31/2015 11:44:58 PM
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SIGN if you prefer the old meta with Handcannons

It's all pulse rifles now? Somebody has to agree with me. It's not balanced at all. It's not mixed weapons. Handcannons are completely useless. Auto rifles are well.. Just beyond garbage, scout rifles... Hmmm debatable. Also it's funny how everybody jumps on the band wagon. You hardly ever saw Titans in crucible now it's full of sun breakers because of the super clutch. I'm a legit beta player with high KD/top 1% who has seen all the balance issues since the vex being ridiculous from day 1. I'm no game technician expect but I know Bungie have no clue how to balance a "competitive" Leave your shit comments behind, a lot of people must agree with me, pvp used to be better. Why does everyone say "it's the meta" a person should be able to use all weapons. Not just a pulse rifle with headseeker.
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  • What's better? Two shots, or two bursts?

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    • I'll take the old meta any day

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    • Im happy with two shot thorn not being here. Two burst pulses is better in my eyes.

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    • Pre-TTK with ARs performing like they do know. No Thorn. No sniper-shotguns. Ability to one shot snipe SB. No ability to re-roll weapons (like right now). That's what I'd like to see.

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    • Minus thorn then yes

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    • IF you need proof, that PvP is more balanced now go into trials. Different kind of pulse rifles, scouts (especially the lamp), AR (Zahlo!), sometimes HC - you see a variety of weapons nowadays. Last time i played trials it was all about thorn,thorn,thorn,thorn,tlw,thorn,thorn,tlw. Of course i played with tlw as well - it felt so good. But of course it was op. It's not perfect balanced now (pulse rifle are the strongest weapons), but it's getting better... IMO: Last Word and Hawkmoon are still decent weapons to play with. Not in every situation, but useful.

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      • [quote] I'm a legit beta player with [b]high KD/top 1%[/b] who has seen all the balance issues since the vex being ridiculous from day 1. [b]I'm no game technician expect but I know Bungie have no clue how to balance a "competitive"[/b] [b]Leave your shit comments behind, a lot of people must agree with me,[/b] [/quote] LMAO. This shit is real people, started the post with his 'call of duty' credentials while sitting in his armchair criticizing a game company on balancing issue and finally just plug his ears and tell everyone to -blam!- off because they must agree with him. [b]This is -blam!-ing gold. [/b]

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        • I think a buff to auto rifles would have been better

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        • No thanks ... new balance is much better.

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        • The old meta wasn't hand cannons. It was TWO hand cannons if they had adjusted those instead of ruining the entire weapon class we would be fine but bungie doesn't adjust they ruin weapons. This is still better. More viable options than ever but the hand cannons took a hard hit.

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          • This coming from a guy with over 13,000 TLW kills...

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          • Ppl always finding something to complain about or put a debate. I rather go against ppl with pulse auto rifle or scouts then throrn bums. I used the thron just because ppl would abuse n can't use anything else. Now ppl who can't win a game without the thron tells ppl that ur weren't a good pvp player. Now ppl with flawless emblems means more now because u have to use team work to win instead of throning the whole game lol.

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          • i prefer it , w/o thorn

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          • I miss my Her Benevolences...

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            • I agree. The hand cannons are what balanced pulse rifles.

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            • There's pros and cons but I think we can all agree getting sniped across the map by thorn with two shots was worse than the occasional two shot by red death nowadays. And now you can get away with using auto rifles. I like this meta better but it's all opinions. I do agree that hc are useless now, at least legendary ones. Range sucks :/

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            • Hey, I think the hand cannons don't completely suck, Hawkmoon, for instance, is not too bad, I know that range has been taken down (no pun intended) but that doesn't mean they suck. They just suck at long range like they should! Scouts are my favorite, everyone is still running rampant with shotties. Now sun breakers? I think every class having a roaming super is a lot different. You spend so much time running away now. I really am not worried. Forget Year 1, Year 2 is here. ADAPT.

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            • Hardly. The old meta consisted of 2 Exotic handcannons, shotguns with fusion rifle range, and Rocket Launchers with Grenades and Horseshoes. At least with this meta, you see a variety of weapon types and loadouts, even if Pulse Rifles seem to be in the majority right now. Although, changing the entire handcannon weapon type was a mistake. They could have adjusted just the Exotics, but it seems Bungie didn't want to do that.

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            • I think the problem is that all of the main PVP players really want crucible to be competitive.

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            • More upset about the Titan bandwagon than this.

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            • Luke said they like having metas, eventually pulse rifles and autos will be nerfed to hell and scouts and hand cannons be buffed again.

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            • There's way more variety than just thorn and last word now. I see I lot of other new guns. Apple of Discord, Grasp of Malok, Nirwen's Mercy, Smite of Merain, red death, bad juju, Hung Jury SR4, Tlaloc, Monte Carlo, and others. Ya a lot are pulses but that's far better than simply the extract same two guns over and over and over again.

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