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  • Normal raid is 290. Just saying...

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  • If you have the malice don't worry about it then

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  • Just saying I just join groups, never host them but... Touch of Malice isn't hard to get at all. It helps a lot. I'd say just get like 2-3 people with one and it will be much easier.

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  • Then make your own fireteam and stop whining about elitist required stuff because HM is coming friday and AINT NO BODY HAVE TIME FOR LFG

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  • The normal raid is recommended light 290 not 300.

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  • Normal Raid recommended level was 290. Bungie stating that Hard Mode is recommended 310.

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    • Getting the jump on the hard mode eh? Why not just let people require what they want to require and make a group of friends so it's not required for you and your group. Is bitching on a forum easier than making friends for you or something?

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    • I can not fathom why people don't have a ToM by now. If you've done the raid then there's no reason to not have ToM. I got mine in 2 days play and I only play about 2 hours a day (more on days off). There's not a single part of acquiring the ToM that requires a huge amount of time dedication. Especially when there are YouTube vids of the exact locations.

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    • Two touch of malice guns can stagger oryx in less time than it takes for you to blink meanwhile you're still reloading your third clip.

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    • Recommend light for normal 290 Level most people consider raid ready 295ish Recommend light level 310 level most people will be 305ish So instead of 5 over recommended we'll be 5 under

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    • It can't be compared to Gjally in that you could only acquire Gjally by rng. Acquiring ToM is down to how much work the individual player wants to put in. In all honesty, if you've done the raid and plan to do hard mode then there's no reason you shouldn't have the ToM. If you don't, that's fine but recognise that people will want to do hard mode with people who have prepared themselves in a similar fashion. Simply put people will be rejected not on the basis of how lucky they are with drops but rather whether they have gone through the steps to achieve a weapon that will help in the final two phases of the raid.

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      • Lol 310 1000-Yard Stare does WORK

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        • Hey if u don't got ToM not our prob it's the best choice

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        • Lol op is irrelevant

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        • Did tons of CE and VOG runs. Never used gally once. Never got Kicked. Ever.

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        • Edited by ActualMagnum: 10/22/2015 6:43:35 PM
          If you don't have ToM it shows you're not a serious raider. Stick with the kiddie teams. EDIT: OP removed his original post and changed his name to BUTTHURT. His name says it all. That is all.

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          • Without a doubt the raid can be done without the Touch. Hell, Crota was fairly easy without a Gally. But, when it comes down to it time is of the essence in Kings Fall. Snipers can do it, but they take a long time unless everyone is on point. With the touch two people could probably flinch Oryx. It's ridiculously powerful in the raid. I'll be going in with a team that has 6 of them. No questions. It will make the first hard run infinitely easier.

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          • Horrible b8

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          • Edited by VonSpartan: 10/22/2015 4:09:40 PM
            I complete around three raids a week, and no one in our crew uses ToM. Why waste an exotic slot on that weapon? Red Death is your best friend for any PVE event. We all use heavy machine guns to stagger Oryx and it works like a charm.

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            • Given that you don't know what the hard raid entails, your scrub email is premature.

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            • 308+ max ToM and Max Black Spindles only

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            • The answer is simple. Stop using LFG, and either join a clan or get some friends. Coming here and bitching because people who don't know you, and you them, ask for the most efficient way of beating the hard mode in general. I have a Spindle and the Malice... Me and my group use whatever we like because we all know the others capabilities. Randoms couldn't possibly know other's capabilities, so to reduce the likelihood of failure, they ask for something that allows a bit more certainty. How can you be mad about that? Every new raid this happens... And soon enough, it stops. Forget what other people are doing, no-one is forcing you or anyone else to use LFG... It's a choice, and by now surely everyone who makes the choice to use LFG knows what to expect.

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            • Did the raid last night with 6 ToM and it only took us 1 1/2 hours to knock it out. I never made it a requirement, but it's nice when everyone has one.

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              • Dude, ill run it 290 on one of my characters along with recording showing proof that i would not be dragged but be at least the second best in the team all around for the hard raid. My exotic will only be sleeper simulant no other except for wall climbing it will be the legendary sword but still!!

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              • Lmao. This post is retarded. Touch of malice is easy as -blam!- to get. If you don't have it, it means you're a lazy -blam!-ing bum.

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                • Lol. People require touch because we don't wanna wipe 24/7 on singers and oryx. Sorry for wanting a faster raid.

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