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Edited by Naroon:
10/19/2015 8:43:35 PM
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An end to the sunbreaker argument
I made this video because of all the people defending that the sunbreaker is not overpowered
The very first part is all you really need to prove it
But then for all those people out there who argued with me that "sunbreakers are not able to 1-shot other supers, stop making up lies" thats in there for you too, enjoy
Then just some extra clips of sunbreakers getting away with crap other classes cant
https://youtu.be/Tg8B4R3zRuo
EDIT: MY SOLUTION
- reduce damage resistance by 5%
- move cauterize and forgemaster into one column (healing & more hammers)
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On top of the solutions you suggested, i would reduce the damage and blast radius of the hammers so that they cant one shot other supers that offer damage reduction such as sunsingers, bladedancers or voidwalkers when casting nova bomb, since they can throw so many hammers.
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3 RepliesBad news they're even more op now. Infinite Hammer Glitch [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/164912191/0/0[/url] #TrialsDelayedTill2016
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Sunbreaker is insane in its overpoweredness. I Don't call many things OP in game but ffs it's to much.
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Bump.
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1 ReplyThank you so much for this!! Maybe this will shut some people up.
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1 ReplyWell made.
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1 ReplyHow bout we just do away with Supers?
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A restart to the argument, this an exert from s different post [quote]The same for blade dancers, nightstalkers, other sunbreakers, but if you use armor that increases armor for your specific subclass when equipped, you'll live through a hammer. Titans can only survive GG when they have solar armor chest piece. http://youtu.be/zzFGmYaREWA[/quote]
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How about supers just do 5% more damage across the board? If you're oneshotting everyone but Hammerdins, why not buff the damage on other supers to fall in line? Serious question. And it won't be something that people will complain about because they're already being killed by supers in one hit. What's another 5% damage to someone that wouldn't have survived anyway? I say this because I think we need to stop asking for nerfs and start asking for buffs instead. This game is just going to get worse and worse the more we ask for things to get nerfed. Let's just elevate the stuff that seems off so they're closer to parity.
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Thank god u got heard by cozmo dude congrats I'll remember to thank u later
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3 RepliesThat was a very well done video to prove your point. How it should be nerfed should be up to bungie and titans, but from what I've seen people are saying HoS should have high armor compared to other supers. Fine. Then get rid of health regen and distance, or health regen and AoE, or health regen and limit it to three throws. That's my speculation. Like I said though, I don't use a HoS titan so leave that to that community.
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i dont plan on playing trials till they fix all the new sub classes
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The problem isn't HoS, it's the Titans max armor stat. If the problem was the supers damage intake reduction, then you would not be able to be one shot by a 1000 yard stare/golden gun no matter what. That only occurs when you have max armor
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direct hit
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4 RepliesEdited by Killa_khronic420: 10/20/2015 7:57:39 PMEasy fix. Use nightstalker. That way you take away titans sunslinger abilities and deal more crit damage. That is a super easy fix for you and I should know. I main my hunter ever since TTK was launched. Also if you think about it, all the new subclasses are OP. Warlocks can clear an entire team in seconds with their chain lightning ability and hunters can provide team buffs as well as lockdown a whole team (if lucky enough) shutting down all supers and abilities, slowing them down and every shot given out will deal more damage or if you have bloodletting (think its called that) you have a chance to deal even more damage or possibly kill more than one who is ensnared into your tether.
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6 RepliesEdited by GnawtyZombie: 10/20/2015 8:58:10 PMI'm sure this has already been brought up, but after reading everything everyone is saying the most sensible thing, in my opinion, would be for there to be different nerfings. Such as, in the Crucible, the titan shouldn't be "invincible" during its super. The warlock shouldldnt have such a high shield after self-Res. The hunter shouldn't be so hard to kill during blade dancer. So what should we do? In the sandbox story mode (patrols, missions, raids etc) the classes should remain at their current glory, every class has a crowd control subclass (bladedancer, stormcaller, sunbreaker) and every class has a "help yourself" subclass "sunsinger,(edit: gunslinger)void walker, defender [not a titan so I couldnt remember the name for the subclass]) Now sure, these subclasses do help out other players but the problem people are having are with the Crucibles. So why don't we take things down a notch? Just lower the amount of shielding these specific subclasses have. If every class was the exact same, there would be no need for classes with different subclasses
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16 RepliesWell you also have to remember that Titans have a larger overall base defense than warlocks and hunters. Even with full armor spec, Titans can have a higher defense stat.
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5 RepliesWith the video proof, it should show all the Titans that defend Sunbreaker why it needs a nerf. Yes, I'm primarily hunter but I know hunters are op in crucible. I used Blink and Hungering Blade. I just say reduce the damage resistance by 5% like you said but make cauterize only work for melee attacks and Hammer of Sol kills. If Bladedancers get Hungering blade on their Arc Blade, let Sunbreakers have the same thing. I just say make every character have a subclass that have similar perks to do the same thing as another subclass on another character. Hell, just give Titans Blink instead of catapult on Sunbreaker and let Nova Bombs heal Voidwalkers. There, every character has something on one of their classes that is similar to another subclass on another character. It may seem op but it makes it equal.
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1 ReplyYou are clearly better than me at PvP but I did manage to one shot a titan using hos with a sniper in IB just today so it's totally possible.
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3 RepliesIf you have max armor sunbreaker cant 1hityou in your super
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1 ReplyThe 5% armor buff is all that is needed. Messing with the perk tree will screw the subclass.
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Edited by OREOMAN 18: 10/20/2015 7:12:55 PMI enjoy using hammer of sol and would have to say your edit is spot on. Seriously. Even I can say that they're a little op lol
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1 ReplyDid anyone else laugh their ass off when the Titan hiding in his bubble waving, ran out and got sniped? Lmfao!!
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1 ReplyAnd btw for all the people that said he was bad and could have shot the titan its because he was trying to show you how op they are
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Sorry but all I have to say is nightstalker hunters drop me out of hammer all the time I tried doin pvp just because you can't kill them right off doesn't mean it's way to op
