It has been a few days since my original post, so I thought I'd check in and see if it is still here. I have to admit I'm surprised (and impressed) Bungie hasn't yet gassed and buried this thread. A lot of people seem to agree with me, which is great to see, and thanks for adding your support. A lot of people disagree with me, and that's OK too. The vast majority of people disagree with my position, obviously, because millions of people are buying the upgrade. That said, judging from some of the replies from those who disagree with my original post, it seems there are some who still don't understand my position, so I will illustrate with an example: Suppose a guy sells you an amplifier and two speakers for your home entertainment system. He's a wealthy guy and a generous guy, so he sells the equipment for only $2. It's excellent, high-quality gear, and so you get an amazing bargain. A year later he comes to your house while you're at work, takes one of the two speakers, and leaves a note. If you pay him another $1 then he'll give back the second speaker AND he'll paint some very cool flames on the sides AND he'll add some very cool new features to your amp. Your entertainment system still works with one speaker, so you don't have to pay him. Then again, it's only $1... and that's no big deal, because even at a total of $3 you are still getting great value for your money. But that's not the point, is it? The point is this: Are you going to pay the guy or are you going to stand on principle? It makes no difference if he wants $1 or $10 or $100 or $1000, because if you are standing on principle then the exact dollar amount doesn't matter. Pay the guy if you want to; I'm not criticizing your decision, but I am criticizing his ethics. And I think you should probably call that payment what it is. I have three final comments: 1. This thread does belong in this forum (Bugs). I have been developing software for over 20 years. I know the technology and I know the business. When you upgrade a product and your upgrade breaks something that wasn't broken before, it's called a bug. PvP Control is broken now and it wasn't broken before. 2. It is conservatively estimated that Bungie has earned over $550 million on Destiny, and it's estimated that Bungie has about 500 employees. On average, that's over a million dollars per employee. Think about that before you open your wallet to pay for the next forced upgrade. 3. Bungie doesn't need your money, but it's a smart company with a smart business strategy, and so far that strategy has paid huge dividends. The company knows a small minority, like me, will object to their revenue model, but it's not enough to make a difference. I have no delusions about that.