Edit for those who still seem to be missing the point:
[b]If you give Bungie your money for TTK, you're telling them that this is an okay way to treat their customers.[/b]
[b]It absolutely is not.[/b]
Original post:
I give up, truly and for real. I stopped playing Destiny a while ago because, like most people, I don't find doing the same thing over and over and over and over for little to no reward to be fun or entertaining.
I figured I'd check in again once Taken King dropped, and check out this "Destiny 2.0" that everyone is talking about.
Well, it turns out there isn't one. At least, not unless you bought TTK.
For everyone who didn't, there isn't even a Destiny 1.0 any more because apparently someone thought locking out anyone without the expansion from literally any of the meaningful activities was a smart move. Even those with the other previous DLC packs have been locked out of the content of that DLC that they paid extra for.
Now, I pride myself on being civil and polite in these forums. Sure, I'm usually snarky and often cutting, but always polite and always understanding. I say this because I want you to understand, any Bungie staff who might happen across this, the weight of these words for me.
Take your game, and go -blam!- yourself with it.
I bought this game, with money I earned. It was an incomplete mess in most places, but it was fun enough and the good times were good enough that I complained only when I really felt like things were lacking. There are some truly great things about Destiny that shine through the bad, and equally there are a lot of really frustratingly poor choices that undermine the good, but at the end of the day I still came back every now and then to get some time in on a game I (for the most part) enjoyed.
To tell me now, a year on, that I can't play that game any more because you just decided so, is -blam!-ing robbery.
-blam!-ing. Robbery.
So I'm done. With Destiny, and with Bungie. I really mean that.
This last year has been enlightening. Halo was a masterpiece, and I love it and always will. So how the hell such a clearly talented and forward thinking studio could manage to get everything so colossally wrong at virtually every turn, and shit on your community on a daily basis is just beyond me.
Your tactics are a joke. Your approach to DLC and content locking is beyond farcical, and to think that no doubt there's some celebration going on in honour of the release of the Taken King genuinely makes me angry. Because you've made it abundantly clear that you don't give two shits about the people who bought your product believing it would be even close to what was promised, only that they were fool enough to give you their money. Luke Smith's interview has forever left a sour taste in my mouth, but I was willing to forgive if things turned around. This latest development has shown that things are obviously never going to change.
So this is me making it equally clear, in no uncertain terms. I'm done with your shitty approach to games, and your absolutely shameful, disgusting money grubbing and corner-cutting. If this is what Bungie now represents, I don't see myself putting down money on any future endeavours either, which is a shame because truly, you guys were one of the reasons I studied for, and now have a degree in Game Design.
Respectfully, up yours.
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#feedback
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Please, name just ONE story mission, strike, raid, crucible map or patrol that you no longer have access to. Just ONE.
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I've said this on other posts so I'll say it again here. Instead of looking at the purchases you made as buying the game look at it more as a subscription to the content. The first 90ish dollars was your subscription to all of year 1, which isn't that bad since most subscription based games are about $10 a month. Year 2 has now begun so if you would like to play the content you need to pay the subscription. It may not seem the most "fair" but that's just how it is with games of this nature.
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[quote]Edit for those who still seem to be missing the point: [b]If you give Bungie your money for TTK, you're telling them that this is an okay way to treat their customers.[/b] [/quote] I disagree. I paid to keep progressing in this game. I don't give 2 craps about old, irrelevant content. Why would I want to run VoG and CE if it gives me crappy gear? They are irrelevant now. That's what happens with progression games. Same goes for the other older content. Time to move on. Don't want to? Fine, move along and buy something else. But don't tell me what signal I gave to Bungie since you don't know my motivation.
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I agree. I stopped playing after the ttk was released. Everyone knows the dlc cost the same to year 1s as what new players got every dlc for, we would have paid 3x as much as what a new player would for all the content. Not bending over to let you come get me again bungie, you bent me over once already with the dark below
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I commend you. You are taking a stand for something you believe in as am I. I see NO reason to give money to a company that practices extortion and obsolescence. Never have I seen a company screw their own game and customers into the ground. I will never give money to bungie or activision EVER AGAIN. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153872798/0/0
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9 RepliesThis is an awful model that i refuse to support. Look at the amount of content ypu get with other games out there. Destiny is basically a subscription service in disguise. They release the bare minimum of content at premium prices and concentrate on marketing to sucker people in. I wasnt made aware that House of wolves was just a temporary DLC when i purchased it. Thats shitty even for the people who have TTK! No paid content should ever be taken from the players without being refunded.
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Bump. When I bought Destiny my decision was in part influenced by their reputation with Halo. But much like a Stalinist purge, all the main talent and creativity that was Bungie has been eschewed in favour of mediocrity pushed by profit-driven individuals.
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Nice. They need to hear this stuff because they are either doing all of this out of greed, or they are completely inept because they are the empty husk of what was once the actual Bungie. Either way, I'm with you.
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Shocking...yet resilient
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Well written.
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Bump!
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Marketing techniques I will not give into goodbye Destiny
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3 RepliesTotally agree. I recently posted in this forum expressing my views and opinions on the recent updates. Personally, I think Bungie has been overrun by animals because even the dumbest of human beings would not make some of the atrociously poor decisions that Bungie have made. The removal of specific exotics, the difficulty of completing side quests without a fireteam, the fact that the new legendary marks are ridiculously difficult to come by, I could go on. However, I will continue to play. In hope that Bungie will reverse their mistakes. We can only hope that someone within the Bungie network takes note and acts upon some of the negative reviews regarding the 2.0 update and the taken King.
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1 ReplyI wholeheartedly agree with the above statement. Sad thing is that people still spend more than enough money to make it profitable and keep them from changing anything. I can't intelligently speak about TTK since I didn't purchase it but locking content (and they told everyone that they were doing it) is unacceptable and cannot be supported by us. All this time I thought I was having fun with destiny, turns out it's nothing more than a slot machine and I'm the chump inserting quarters waiting for my big break. The above video does a fantastic job of explaining this.
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22 RepliesHere's a weird one to mull over. What if Bungie are deliberately breaking the game and upsetting the players to try and get Activison to release them from the contract due to bad publicity. I know that sounds like rubbish but this Bungie isn't the same Bungie that created Halo.
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$60.00 for less than 3 hours of content and recycled maps is nothing but a huge F-U to fans. Do not purchase The Taken King.
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1 ReplyRemember when game companies made games with the intent that they'd be enjoyed, instead of making them purely for money? Man those were the days. Back when a game would last like 3+ years before another sequel, such as Halo 3. If only games were still like that, because those are the games where the best memories are made. I can still remember the hundreds of custom games and intense ranked playlists. Hopefully another game will come close to what Halo 2-3 were capable of, because that would be flippin awesome.
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2 Replieswell stated. Bungie went from favorite games company , to local scumbag sweat shop that pisses on both players and employees. It is a hole to work in, and they cant attract talent for the pennies they are paying. Even the temps don't want to work there.
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What they've done to their fans is a disgrace. Agreed.
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5 RepliesEdited by Gunship: 9/17/2015 3:52:01 AMThe problem is even worse than it seems. As long as we let them, they are going to keep doing this. Every DLC. We like owning things, not renting things. They know that. That is why they are disguising this as DLC content instead of openly showing a subscription. My guess is they would have got 10% at best of the initial response if they had marketed this as a subscription game, And even if they had, people would still be pissed at the state of the game. Not only have they locked out so much of the content if you don't buy TTK, they are basically griefing the players with those assinine 'Taken Clones' coruption infestations. It was bad enough with the House of Wolves over powered captains plaguing the normal patrol areas, but at least with those they were a little off the main areas, with TTK it is even worse, they drop right in the way of other things that we are trying to do. And as far as i can see they are cheater griefer mobs cloned from other mobs we already had. The vex were bad enough with the constant teleporting bs but these are just stupid. There can be NO strategy fighting them. they apear everywhere with no predictability and half the time the are invisible. The ONLY way to fight them is to run and gun in classic Bungie twitch "this is the only right way" fashion. Destiny is Digital ADHD What ever it is you have set yourself to accomplish, this game will barrage the player with every distraction it can think of to make the process take longer. Griefer mobs, 'laughable public events', Patrol missions that take you way the hell to the other side of the map for no reason, etc. etc. etc, All of it designed specifically to waste our time. If this bs that they showed us was supposed to make us buy TTK i would say for many of us it does the exact opposite, This game could have been the best game ever. All they had to do was add a new planet and some moons with each DLC. Really not that much harder than what they did. New planet new mobs, new levels, the missions they design for the dlcs could have taken place there instead of reusing the old terrain. Then leave all the old worlds totally accessable as they were each DLC. We all would have been so excited at the new ADDITIONS and would HAPPILY have bought them. I don't care about the $40 even though it is retardedly expensive for what we got. I care they they are trying to force me. I don't like being bullied.
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You know something is wrong when other developers look at you as a disgrace to the gaming industry.
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1 ReplyBump Can't believe people are being locked out of vanilla/how/tdb content so my $60+$35= $95 on Xbox 360t Then adding another 95+40=135 for Xbox one means nothing unless I purchase TTK ??? So for $135 I'm locked out of being able to play 50% of content I've already paid for unless I spend another $40 for a grand total of $175?? How does this make any sense at all? I will not be purchasing anytime soon thanks
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2 RepliesMoney grubbing hahaha, you were being nice with that one.
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The worse part is that it's not even worth the $40 when you think about before TTK with 2.0 update and now with TTK. It's the same game but with more story while locking out players from the game they played for a whole year already. Without the locked content that we already had, this DLC is $30 at most and the other ones should have been $15.
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One: Absolutely spot on. Fantastic post! Two: Farcical. You may well be among my heroes sir. Outstanding word use. :)