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Edited by jack-spicer: 9/13/2015 4:17:28 PM
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So umm Bungie, this shotgun patch is gonna happen when?

2.0 did nothing to them its still one hit bs again and again thinking about cancelling my taken king copy and probably say goodbye to this game.

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  • I'm still getting one-shot at ridiculous ranges by felwinters and matador in crucible, but it feels like I'm firing birdshot in PvE.

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      If you're a regular shot gunner like my self, you can feel the difference, now I'm gonna come out and say yes I use to blink and shotgun . But not to frequently anymore, I snipe know a days. Now the PvE shotgun nerf is brutal...

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      • OG felwinters are still the only problem, other ones not so much, it's just more prevalent right now because so many of the maps are cqc centered.

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        • Yeah, because it's totally normal to survive a shotgun shot to the head at very close range!

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          • Just wait until we see the level 40 shotguns....that will be the nerf We will find out tomorrow. Yes Felwinters 170 light shotgun will be good in normal crucible. I bet there wont be ANY long range 280 level shot guns. Solved

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          • Shotguns are supposed to one shot you at close range. Bungie thought that the range on some shotguns were too far with rangefinder or shot package, so those were nerfed a little to redefine that close range is actually closer. You can argue about what range they should be effective, but if you cannot one shot with a shotgun at close-range, then take it out, because otherwise it is a pointless weapon.

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            • I feel like they nerfed it to shit in PvE

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              • It's extremely noticeable in pve

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              • Are u guys serious? Shotguns cannot do what they did before plain and simple.

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              • Took 6 shots with the found verdict to kill a hallowed knight. I think they have been nerfed enough.

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                • Edited by Shine Astray: 9/14/2015 6:09:53 PM
                  The pve nerf was unwarranted. The pvp nerf is warranted but nonexistant.

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                  • Edited by EnvyMeRT: 9/14/2015 6:03:55 PM
                    I agree whole heartedly , shotguns are overpowered in the crucible. Fel winters and matador plow from 20-30 ft. If it's not a one shot it's a two shot that the second shot kinda hits. I like using my matador but it definitely did not receive a nerf or balancing of any kind in the crucible.

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                  • Lol Shotty is the exact same on pvp.

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                  • I noticed it quite a bit. Just learned to adapt to shotgun then melee.

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                  • Try shotgunning the sword bearer on crota. You'll notice it then...

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                    • Bye Felicia.

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                    • They nerfed the crap out of them on PvE; the area where it was fine...... Go figure. PvP you can sense the range was affected, but they're still too prevalent.

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                    • I have definitely noticed a drop in range while trying my party crasher a few times. I think they did a good job. The lethality and pellet spread of shotguns in real life are considerably further in relation to the game. So taking that into consideration the devs seemed to find some decent middle ground. I find they've reduced the range and increased pellet spread to a self defence style shotgun. Think of a nice little pistol grip shotgun that is short and used for zombie killing. But real world examples are truly meaningless to some but that's just my personal take from my first hand experience being an avid hunter and recreational shooter.

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                    • Personally, the shotgun has lost some of its range for sure. I can only two shot people what I used to kill at max range with my fel winters. If you are dying to a shotgun that much that you have to cry on the forums than you are making bad plays by letting your opponents rush you into shot kill range or not doing enough to combat it.

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                    • I think it's time to take a step in to the real world bud. Idk what planet you live on, where a point blank shotgun doesn't blow your face, but I'm suggesting you look up a few videos. You'd be amazed what a real shotgun can do

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                    • Ha!

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                    • Shot package needs a nerf. That's what is still making shotguns op

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                    • As soon as they nerf 1 hit sniper headshots they will nerf shotguns.

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                    • So, you're saying if I'm barrel stuffing you with a twelve-gauge, it shouldn't be fatal? Don't worry, the waaambulance is on route!

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                      • How many shots should it take?

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                      • You're delusional if you think the Nerf did nothing to shotguns. True Blink - Shotgun is officially done with since there is a delay from blink to being able to fire wich also denies the Quickdraw perk in the Blade dancer skill tree. Also you can no longer get one hit kills at distance like before. Shotguns have the range they were intended to have now IMO. If you get one shotted by a shotgun you let them out play you plane and simple. The Nerf is there plain as day. Now, if you expected them to be useless that's another story. I don't think shotguns should be useless. Play smarter and you'll do better.

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