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Edited by Srlqulongtard:
6/14/2015 4:17:58 PM
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Make Hunters More Useful in PvE
I personally play as a warlock as my main but I cry just a little every time I see a hunter in my fireteam for raids or Prison of Elders. The main Issue I see with them is that they are inherently selfish subclasses. They can't create as many orbs, Bladedancers especially, as any other subclass and while they can domminate the crucible, invisibility is the only usefulness the can provide in endgame activities.
To make bladedancers wanted outside of diffusing mines they should create the proper amount of orbs per kill (They make about half as many orbs per kill as every other super) and make them immune to non-guardian melee damage while in bladedancer form so that they don't have to worry about dying easily to melee oriented enemies such as Bladedancer captains and vandals (the ones with swords and occasionally go invisible), Minotaurs, melee Knights, and the Cabal in General.
Gunslingers should be able to do precision damage with the golden gun to better take down Majors without emptying an entire super on 1. An exotic specifically designed for killing trash mobs would be nice. Make a terrestrial day bird (Opposite of celestial nighthawk) that has decreased damage per shot but many more shots.
Please excuse any mispellings, it's reset day which means this is just a really long Monday for me.
EDIT: After testing some testing with my gunslinger, I found that the golden gun does have a crit multiplier so my only real hunter related issue is the lack of usefulness of the bladedancer super in pve. I realize that Invisibility is great in the right circumstances but the super itself puts the player in way to much danger and doesn't spawn enough orbs.
EDIT 2: My issue is with the BLADEDANCER super. I realize nighthawk is a thing but because most hunters run bladedancer, I never get to see it. I'm not saying that hunters are bad/useless but the the bladedancer super is weak in terms of killing enemies in endgame content and spawning orbs. I realize that invisibility is a thing, but its not needed if everybody always has their super.
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Ever had a hunter running sword in crota.
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Lol'd at the terrestrial day bird. Still a great idea though.
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Every character can play a role, people talked down on Hunters when the VOG was the hot topic but I was a Hunter and 1 of the 1st people to solo the left side portal, then people said ONLY Hunters can run sword on Crota but I've seen many Warlocks and Titans do it, I get what your saying about POE but if the person has good weapons and know what they're doing it should be fine
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3 RepliesI can one shot almost any major with a Celestial Nighthawk GG Bullet, Invis clutch difuse all 3 mines, solo the lamps on CE with absolutely no difficulty, run sword with a guaranteed 4 and 4 hits per sword, and one hit kill 4 oracles in the VOG with GG, as well as use GG to clear any supplicants to ensure people don't die. Please explain how I am a useless team member in end game activities as a hunter.
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2 RepliesCelestial Nighthawk was a great thing to give gunslinger. Bladedancer just needs something so that a yellow bar can't punch you to death while your slashing away at them
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Edited by mutantmass93: 6/4/2015 2:59:31 AMWarlocks only real use in pve was cheesing gatekeeper. Oh and basing gameplay around dying. Titans power players for boss fights. Hunters are best for relic holding both times in VoG, lamps in crotas end, running sword, clutch revives and crucible kings. They stand equal to titans and warlocks in PvE and stand superior in PvP. Too bad they don't make 8 orbs. They don't need to.
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They are helpful their invisibility is really good for disarming mines especially in the cabal room because psions blast goes through titan bubbles, also being able to go invisible and res team mates helps a lot.
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6 RepliesArc blade has the highest kill potential of any super in any game mode, that's why it only drops half orbs, although a 2/3 orb drop rate would be better in my opinion Golden gun takes 4 shots to kill a major, all of the one-off supers cannot kill a full health major of the same level as you, making golden gun equal in power, however I do agree that golden gun should have a precision damage multiplier of 1.5 making it the true class that searches for the perfect shot
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3 RepliesOn the golden gun an precision point. I think that would have been a way better perk for the arachnid helm rather than zoom.......and that's it.
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Arachnid actually let you do precision damage.
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Hunters are the best.
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I haven't played for a month but based off the news and modifiers I heard -brawler modifier with bladedancer and arc burn -still invisibility -the exotics Ummmmm
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Edited by Ockey Chit: 6/3/2015 10:08:28 PMNighthawk, invis revive, clutch without being dead, nighthawk, dismantling mines without wasting super. And I know mentioned some of these in the post but it's the truth [spoiler]i know nighthawk is in there twice[/spoiler]
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Lmfao hunters are great in pve now, I went from Maining a warlock at lvl33, to taking my hunter from 28-34 before my warlock because of how good hunters are in PoE and trials now, they are increadible
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Hunters in general are fine. Most likely the people you play with/get matched with aren't very good at the game. Don't worry about us man, we're good.
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4 RepliesHunter is useful in PvE in skolas they can go invis to defuse mines and on any solar burn a celestial nighthawk will do massive damage to anything
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Camo skills with a hunter in pve is op.
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1 ReplyEdited by A FILTHY NUT: 6/3/2015 9:37:48 PMAside from Titans, Hunters perform specialized tasks. Warlocks on the other hand, are only good as a failsafe for a team. But IMO invis > Fireborn for those circumstances. Btw Titans are the most useful class for spawning orbs, not warlocks.
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1 ReplySo, you need more orbs to recharge your death insurance a lot? Don't worry, we'll go invisible and revive you, again. - Hunters
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selfish? hunters are medics... and also very useful for mines
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Honestly, the low orb count seems like a nod to the character they're supposed to be. A lone wolf
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2 RepliesI don't think hunters are a bad PvE class... But blade dancer orb generation is beyond pathetic and should have been changed 6 months ago. On the other hand, golden gun kill 2 yellow bar enemies guaranteed 8 orbs... That is the best in the game with warlocks.
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Call me selfish next time I save your ass with invis
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6 RepliesHunters: Oracle shredders in VOG. Insane sword bearers in Crota. Objective gods in POE. Hunters dont need to be orb factories to be useful.
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Edited by Kibeth: 6/3/2015 9:22:16 PMI love PoE with hunters. 2 gunslinger and a titan destroy every boss and maintain infinite bubble. Stealth for non boss rounds makes every objective a freaking breeze and you have safe revives on demand. Personally I think they're in a great spot.
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Edited by Pyro 509: 6/3/2015 9:18:47 PMLearn to be more useful in pve - hunters are one of the best all around classes :P Edit: BTW, I will run with you any day on xb1. I will beat you in orb creation, I will beat you in kills, and I will be there to complete any objective before you. Skill>class Just because a lot of people that play hunters are almost exclusive PvP players (or it's their ALTs) doesn't mean hunter mains don't know how to play pve. I could make the same argument that all self res warlocks are noobs and more often than not die too often and just get killed again after self reviving, but like I said, skill>class
