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Edited by CrazyLincoln: 7/31/2015 6:43:06 PM
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I don't support the troops.

Memorial Day in America is coming up this Monday. We're to remember all those who died in prior wars protecting America from attack and protecting freedom! Welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave. Let's all remember... but wait, this is all bullshit. The United States isn't in threat of being invaded. In fact, the last time the country was invaded by a state was 1814 when the White House was burned to the ground by the British. Here is a list of the countries the United States has had military involvement in: [quote]The following is a list of countries invaded by the US forces (naval, military and ultimately air forces) since its inception in order of major incidents. This catalogue derives heavily form the work of US academic Dr Zoltan Grossman's article “From Wounded Knee to Libya : a century of U.S. military interventions” [1], Gideon Polya's book ‘Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950” (that includes a brief history of all countries since Neolithic times) [2] and William Blum's book “ Rogue State ” [3]. This list includes instances of violent deployment of US forces within America (e.g. against demonstrators, miners etc), and includes small-scale bombing and military intervention operations, military evacuations of Americans and specific instances of explicit threats of use of nuclear weapons. The list does not include the 1801-1805 US Marine Barbary War operations against Barbary pirates based in Morocco , Algeria , Tunisia and Libya , and also ignores massive US subversion of virtually all countries in the world. (1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre), (2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923), (3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990), (4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001), (5), Argentina (1890), (6), Chile (1891; 1973), (7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005), (8) Hawaii (1893-), (9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958), (10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953), (11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-), (12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-), (13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962), (14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; ); (15) Guam (1898-), (16) Samoa (1899-), (17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989), (18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966), (19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961), (20) Russia (1918-1922), (21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999), (22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967), (23) Turkey (1922), (24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992), (25) Italy (1941-1945); (26) Morocco (1941-1945), (27) France (1941-1945), (28) Algeria (1941-1945), (29) Tunisia (1941-1945), (30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986; 1989; 2011), (31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013), (32) India (1941-1945), (33) Burma (1941-1945), (34) Micronesia (1941-1945), (35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945), (36) Vanuatu (1941-1945), (37) Austria (1941-1945), (38) Hungary (1941-1945), (39) Japan (1941-1945), (40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; ), (41) Uruguay (1947), (42) Greece (1947-1949), (43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975), (44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984), (45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011), (46) Laos (1962-), (47) Indonesia (1965), (48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975), (49) Oman (1970), (50) Laos (1971-1973), (51) Angola (1976-1992), (52) Grenada (1983-1984), (53) Bolivia (1986; ), (54) Virgin Islands (1989), (55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003), (56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991), (57) Kuwait (1991), (58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006), (59) Bosnia (1993-), (60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997), (61) Albania (1997), (62) Sudan (1998), (63) Afghanistan (1998; 2001-), (64) Yemen (2000; 2002-), (65) Macedonia (2001), (66) Colombia (2002-), (67) Pakistan (2005-), (68) Syria (2008; 2011-), (69) Uganda (2011), (70) Mali (2013), (71) Niger (2013).[/quote] http://www.countercurrents.org/polya050713.htm The troops are protecting my freedom? Sure they are. Keep telling yourself that the troops are the only thing keeping other governments from attacking the United States. The troops are an invading force. They are not a force for defense. Prove me wrong if you can. [spoiler]You can't.[/spoiler]

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  • Agreed.

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  • Move to sweden or some shit then

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    • Who bumped this shit?

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    • We don't just go to other country's and kill innocent civilians...smart guy..

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    • But think about how the world would be without America, and those many wars.

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    • The troops aren't the issue It's the men who fund coups that create radical islamic states just for the sole purpose of getting the lobbied and corrupt politicians to send troops into an area and secure resources. It's allllll profit, Lincoln. When you understand that, all of this police and military stuff will come into view. Then you can start tracing the money back and back and back...

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      • Of course you don't. You're you. I try to refrain from posting to all of your shit but can you just like stop please? It's starting to get really annoying

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        • *looks at OP, "we need to talk about your sanity"*

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        • OP is a teenager trying to be edgy

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          • That's your right to do so as an American which the troops protect. Congrats.

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            • The troops would of protected LLC, but you didn't support them

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              • This is all true... But it is mis directed. It may sound like an excuse, but the troops are often from lower income houses, and have a low education. It's the government that indoctrinated them. Most soldiers honestly think what they are doing is right. Those who don't still have to follow orders, or risk court Marshall and possibly dishonourable discharge. In essence, it's not the troops that choose. It's the government and the leadership that have been making money off of perpetual war for centuries. Get your shit straight

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                • Oh, such edge Lincoln.

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                • Congrats. You want a cookie?

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                  • Typical brainwashed sheeple "hurr durr Isis gon take my freedoms away. They gon invade us"

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                    • As an officer in the USAF, I am proud to maintain and protect your freedom, including your right to free speech. If we couldn't say things like you did here, our country would be no different from the oppressive dictatorships and communist bodies we have helped free the oppressed from for centuries. Your venom only fuels the cause. I can only hope that someday you will grow to respect those that have fallen to give you the right to complain. Today is a day to remember those sacrifices. Honor them!

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                      • Thank you for showing the evidence of how our involvement has kept us relatively safe.

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                      • Well the troops defend your right to make your claim and publicize it. I disagree with you wholeheartedly but that's the beauty of America, you don't have to agree. My opinion is my own and yours is your own. Nothing is going to convince one of us the other way.

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                        • Hey jack-balm!- you can't argue with any opinion

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                          • OP do you live in America?

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                            • Edited by Dizasterpiece: 5/26/2015 2:42:06 AM
                              "I dont agree with hitlers policies, but I still support the n a z i troops", hey sounds familiar doesn't it?

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                              • Edited by DB5: 5/26/2015 2:29:48 AM
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                                You're perfectly free to criticize the US military. That's the point. That's what they defend. I'd personally direct my skepticism to the civilian oversight that sends soldiers to these places, because the soldiers have literally no say in the matter. They go where directed and put their lives on the line so you can complain about them on a video game forum. Additionally, do understand that some of those events in your list are simply noting military deployment to a country whose government welcomed in the US soldiers. Others note where the US acted alongside other States on UNSC resolutions.

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                                • I would LOVE to see you say this to the families of those actually making sacrifices. But you won't because you are hiding behind the Internet

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                                  • I don't support killing people. Soldiers aren't heroes, they're tools of war. They're not fighting for our freedom, as far as I know it isn't in jeopardy. They're fighting because that's their orders... give a man a uniform, a gun, and people will bow to them like they're some kinda "hero". A hero wouldn't murder innocent civilians, or -blam!- women, or even laugh at human beings being slaughtered.

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                                    • You should support the troops, man. I agree, they often do fight for worthless causes, but they do put their lives on the line.

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                                      • OP is ISIS scum

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