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Edited by ISHALLNOTBEBEAT: 5/7/2015 3:23:30 PM
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Do you believe that the modern system is good?

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[b]PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU ANSWER[/b] My belief is that the western modern system is broken and does not work as a means to keep our species collectively happy. I'll explain why. The important bits will be in bold. 1. [b]The overall pointlessness[/b] Currently, this is what most of us in the west will go through in life: Be born Spend 4 years being taught our parents beliefs Spend 12 years in school Go to college Find a shit job that we aren't happy with Hope for some fantastic or amazing event to happen Find a better job that we are okay with Keep hoping for that amazing event Get married Have 2 children Watch as they repeat the system Retire Die This doesn't seem like a very good life. Yet this is the norm for most people. 2. [b]The school system[/b] Many people believe that school is there to help you know how to make money when you are older. [b]it is not. School does not teach you how to be financially independent (meaning having enough money to be happy and comfortable through your adult life whiteout being in debt or having to worry about bills or mortages ). It teaches you ways that you can make money for other people, who will then pay you a tiny fraction of how much money you make for them.[/b] If it was implemented properly, then the school system could teach everyone how to be financially independent. But it can never be implemented properly, because companies want people to be constantly struggling against debt and bills, so that there will always be demand for jobs. [b]School is also pretty much compulsory nowadays. If you don't go, your parents will be put In jail and you will be put in care. This is because the companies want to have every last person to be fed into this system and want a job at said company.[/b] Anyone who refuses to follow the system or points out the flaws is rejected by society and left to die, uncared for by the human race. This seems wrong. 3. [b]Happiness and freedom[/b] 250 years ago, you were legally allowed to leave your family whenever you wanted, as long as your family allowed it. You could be an apprentice in any trade you liked at 7, as long as you showed hard work. There was still a whole world to explore, and you could buy cheap passage on any ship and expect to go almost anywhere reachable by sea, no questions asked. [b]Nowadays, it is illegal to leave your parents under 18, and no company will take you for an apprenticeship unless you are 15. To leave a country, you need to pay for fuel, a passport, and border control have a right to send you home whenever they want. You also need a visa to stay In a country.[/b] 4. [b]Quantity over quality[/b] [b]Currently, there are 7.2 billion human beings on earth. Only now, people are starting to realise this is a serious problem. It does not help that abortion laws have been made stricter over the last 50 years. It also does not help that humans are the only species that reproduces more in the face of famine and starvation. India is one of the world's poorest countries, yet it has the second largest population of any country. Soon there will be far too many people and far too little resources to keep all of them happy. We seriously need to abolish the abortion laws, stop funding charities, reduce the amount of hospitals, supply free cyanide pills, put In birth control and let the population die off a bit, before we have more human beings than our planet can support[/b]. These are my main points. There are many more things wrong with the modern system, but this post is already way too long. Please discuss. [b]Edit:[/b] Now everyone hates me. I'm not surprised. [b]Edit número dos:[/b] Most people seem to agree that the current school system isn't great. [b]Edit número tres:[/b] Hm. A lot less people seem to hate me now. Most of them seem to agree with the fact that the school system doesn't work properly. Keep the conversation alive!
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  • Bump, because I'm OP and I can do this sort of thing.

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  • We are all just twiddling our thumbs until we die, if you think about it

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    • You do [b]not[/b] live for money. Greed is born out of this

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      • Am I the only one who clicked on this and thought he was talking about an Xbox one and ps4......

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      • It works for now, but not forever.

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      • It's better than living to 40 and croaking because of something dumb like a kidney infection.

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        • Current school system is so flawed destiny looks good compared to it. Shit even jail is better then school.

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          • Edited by Sapid: 5/7/2015 3:08:47 PM
            Not everyone can be special...enjoy your life as it is and make the most of it. Your name will fade forever no matter what you do eventually. Honestly, the world needs people doing what they do,'living and working even if they don't love their current situation. If everyone ran off to climb mountains or travel the world there wouldn't be a civilization. The current system, while shitty, allows you the freedom to eventually do what makes you happy if you work hard enough.

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            • Getting told by your parents what religion to choose is also harming society. Parents should teach their children how to think critically, logically, and then let the child choose what religion he/she wants.

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              • I don't think killing is the solution for population control. The mother should choose if she wants to abortion. Couldn't the people in India just move to less populated parts of the world?

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                • We need a zombie apocolapyse

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                  • [quote]supply free cyanide pills[/quote] I'm in

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                    • Edited by ISHALLNOTBEBEAT: 5/7/2015 10:02:54 AM
                      Self bump, 'cos reasons.

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                    • I can only agree about the education system, it's more about getting points and marks rather than getting educated

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                    • Well we're living and I don't have to worry about dying of starvation, illness, murder, etc Seems pretty good to me

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                    • So being a bronze-age goat farmer is better? At least the Amish seem blissfully ignorantly happy, but walk a mile in the shoes of your idea if you're really not sure. This is a no-brainer.

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                      • [quote] My belief is that the western modern system is broken and does not work as a means to keep our species collectively happy. I'll explain why. The important bits will be in bold. 1. [b]The overall pointlessness[/b] Currently, this is what most of us in the west will go through in life: Be born Spend 4 years being taught our parents beliefs[/quote] Pshh, my parents were taught MY beliefs. [quote]Spend 12 years in school Go to college Find a shit job that we aren't happy with [/quote] lol, I've already been confirmed a job once I get out of college. It pays over 200,000. [quote]Hope for some fantastic or amazing event to happen Find a better job that we are okay with[/quote] If they're not happy with their job then they didn't try hard enough. [quote]Keep hoping for that amazing event Get married Have 2 children[/quote] Children? Hahahaha [quote]Watch as they repeat the system Retire Die[/quote] Yeah, I'll retire fat, rich and happy, and I'll be remembered for my discoveries. Not much more to ask for. [quote]This doesn't seem like a very good life. Yet this is the norm for most people. [/quote] Seems fine to me

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                        • Depends on who you are. It is ideal if you already own a large amount of capital; otherwise, no.

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                        • It's workable, but could be improved. I'd reform schools and work from there. It's not inherently a bad thing though.

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                        • [i]Not always.[/i] Escpically post-modernism, thats just cancerous.

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                        • Didn't read, [b]#thugluef[/b]

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                        • I agree. Those who hate you are just blind. Schools need to teach how to be self sufficient and not just another slave to society. Unless of course that is what they choose. Some people work for themselves, then others would rather be their own boss.

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                        • We need two things. 1) Education system overhaul. 2) money out of politics. Money should not equal speech.

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                          • I agree with pretty much everything you said and I don't hate you. We need a culling.

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                              When you sum up decades of your life as one drawn-out, monolithic event, of course it looks bad! Yes, those monoliths are there, but those are trail markers, and all of the good stuff is [i]off[/i] the trail. If you're in high school now, even though being in school takes up the majority of your waking hours, that's not the only thing going on. Judging by some of the other things you've posted, you're also becoming a person who cares about the rest of the world around you, and that in itself might be the beginnings of the amazing thing you're looking for. Most of us are malignant at our best and misanthropic at our worst! Yes, most of us work at least one crappy job. My first job was sweeping floors at a poultry processing plant. Live chickens come in, frozen chicken product goes out. I worked with people who had to wear rubbing boots up to their knees because they were gutting chickens for a living using a little gun-shaped thing that you shove up a chicken's butt, and it sucks their innards out into a bag on the back of the gun. The boots were to make sure something more easily sanitized than jeans got splattered when one of those bags broke and the guts landed behind them. My second job was at Sears about ten years ago, and I hated that too. Since then I've had three jobs, and I've enjoyed all of them the vast majority of the time. Take the crappy ones, but don't get stuck there; you're just passing through on the way to something better. Your third point is definitely romanticizing the past. Leaving home early is usually like going to Denny's at 3AM. You didn't [i]go[/i] to Denny's, you [i]ended up[/i] there. You could leave, but most people didn't because that was worse, and it still is. You can still leave younger than 18 in a lot of places with your parents' permission, too, by the way. There's just a bit of a legal process to it. You're just going to be leaving very underprepared to support yourself. Your chances of dysentery are a lot lower than 250 years ago, so I guess there's that. Besides, for half of the population, having permission to leave home young mostly meant that your parents had decided who you were going to marry, which was also not ideal. The current system isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it's good, and it's not anything like your first point describes it. It's way more interesting, intricate, and exciting. When the main story gets boring, don't overlook the option of a perfectly good side quest!

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                              • I agree but I feel like if you learned more about history you would at least understand how this all happened. Also these issues can't just be fixed in a snap, the world needs a lot of work to be done. Just go through history and you will see things are not as bad as they could have turned out.

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