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4/9/2015 1:32:42 PM
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A simple and fair solution to Thorn
Simple, alter its exotic DOT perk.
The DOT perk will become akin to Luck in the Chamber with DOT on top of it. I propose that TWO lucky rounds have the poison effect applied to them while the rest well be normal projectiles.
If this is applied, it will be a soft nerf to the poison effect abuse in the crucible and the weapon will also still be viable in PVE due to people spending more rounds into high health bosses/enemies ensuring the poison lucky rounds will proc.
Thoughts, questions, comments, or concerns?
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Or you can get better at the game and realize that people use a variety of guns, and when you are finished with Thorn, you'll move onto something else. But if you want to change this, become a better player. [spoiler]Filthy Scrooblord.[/spoiler]
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If you're upset over thorn being op in crucible, you don't understand the lore. I was CREATED to DESTROY guardians and DEVOUR their light.
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[quote]Simple, alter its exotic DOT perk. The DOT perk will become akin to Luck in the Chamber with DOT on top of it. I propose that TWO lucky rounds have the poison effect applied to them while the rest well be normal projectiles. If this is applied, it will be a soft nerf to the poison effect abuse in the crucible and the weapon will also still be viable in PVE due to people spending more rounds into high health bosses/enemies ensuring the poison lucky rounds will proc. Thoughts, questions, comments, or concerns?[/quote] Stop
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Or just leave it alone and hit them first
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4 RepliesOR just modify the damage on the last tick to 6 so that you can't 2 shot head shot.
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7 Replieshttp://i.imgur.com/Hg22oY8.jpg Thorn's Time To kill is 3x faster than any other hand cannon, in PvP this is not acceptable.
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Simpler solution....leave it as it is.
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6 RepliesEdited by bwerbwerbhb fbfb: 4/10/2015 11:20:02 AMhttp://i.imgur.com/Hg22oY8.jpg Thorn's Time To kill is 3x faster than any other hand cannon, in PvP this is not acceptable.
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Or you could get better at croucible and stop crying nerf you pussy
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I just finished my thorn and bad juju bounties. I'm a pretty appalling PvP player as my stats could prove. I was good enough to get the said guns, but I did notice that I would get beat by thorn often, but I never was upset by it as it wasn't as often as I thought I would. I don't play PvP much so my time spent doesn't speak for the majority of players. I was also able to take down about as many thorn weilders as took me down. Just my thoughts.
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It's an [b]EXOTIC[/b], all exotics should have that one edge that sets them apart from regular guns. I'm all for balanced gameplay but all this "blank is Op" "Blank needs a Nerf" is getting outta hand. I get killed by Thorn, TLW, Vex Mytho, Red Deaths are now rampant, but I take my death and approach those encounters differently. Everyone cries Nerf until they get the weapons they were crying against and then they shut up.
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Stop being salty that you suck and cant get the void crucible kills
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4 RepliesEdited by Munchlax: 4/10/2015 12:39:38 PMNo. Leave it as is. Thorn was not an easy weapon to get let it loath in its awesomeness. I haven't even used mine yet plus I'm terrible in crucible.
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I say insted of taking 7 damage 6 times with one shot, make it where you only get 2 7 hits per shot and they can stack. So to get 6 lingering damage hits you have to hit the target 3 times.
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Thorn is out gunnable, single shot weapons require more aim than other weapons. If I were to counter a thorn I would be constantly moving and shooting my vex, while the enemy hopes to land their shot on a moving target. Too bad there's not much "lead your shot" moments in this game. I would love to see that.
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7 RepliesORRRRR... To make it useful in pve while not killing pvp buff it to 12 rounds and each round has 50% chance of burn.
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Do you guys ever quit fuc king whining about this game? Jesus christ. Bungies special ammo nerf will make the thorn even more prominent in PvP now. All you guys that were whining about the shotguns got what you wanted. But on the flip side of that, now even more people are going to be using thorn. Keep whining about thorn and you guys will get it nerfed. The whiners are the ones they listen too. You really haven't figured that out by now?
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I second this , thorn has killed crucible imo
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8 RepliesNO!!! IT ALREADY SUCKS ENOUGH IN PVE!!! YOU UGLY PVPERS NEED TO GO BACK TO THE ARENA AND DEAL WITH YOU LIVES AND STOP MESSING WITH PVE WEAPONS!!! sorry I just had to get that out ;)
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4 RepliesI think that if anything there should be a range factor applied to the DOT. If I get sniped with the damn thing I feel like the DOT should scale with the damage dropoff of the actual round. That way I'm not getting two shot from across the map which DOES happen and it brings it in better alignment with the rest of the hand cannons. Also I think that the DOT could stay the same, but speed up the ticks so that it doesn't keep my shield down for 10 seconds every time I get hit. The problem with thorn is the DOT keeps any player hit with it vulnerable for too long, taking them out of the battle or leaving them weak for an extended period. The other issue is that when struck by multiple opponents the DOTs stack, making a full team of thorn users incredibly hard to counter. (Yes I know crucible full team strategies etc I get it, but still it's frustrating). The scope of effects of thorns abilities go far beyond just being a two shot headshot and there in lies the problem. The DOT needs to be reigned in, but in a way that still allows it to do its original purpose, make the gun go an extra amount of damage over time consistently. Nerfing the gun would make it just another hand cannon, but as it is now it is becoming the new SUROS on xbox. Something needs to be done, but changing gun balance is a fine line to walk regardless. TLDR: Give DOT range dropoff and speed up the ticks, but otherwise leave the gun the same. Thoughts?
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Make it so that only half the bullets do the DoT
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How bout you just quit the game? All in favor?
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No nerfs stop bitching because you suck
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Or they can stop tinkering with weapons at all. Honestly I've heard almost every weapon get complained about it seems on forums. It's the player killing you who has learned how to master it, not the weapon.
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Does no one on the forums even THINK about pve??
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Its not OP. I dont even use mine in crucible because i don't like it that much. If you can't outgun it, thats your own fault.
