Dude, if you have problems with either of those you're using them wrong. Noted our grenades are arguably on the weaker end compared to the others but they can be utilized to deadly effect. Placing a trip mine on a wall behind someone in a gunfight is the perfect kill trap , using an Arcbolt grenade on a group of damages enemies is an almost guaranteed double kill. These are just two examples in regards to the most used of our grenades, you need to know when to use them and be precise in your throws. Our melee is very useful on both subclasses. The throwing knife can be very useful in firefights you're either losing or when you're out of ammo, so long as they have some of their shield gone a precision Shot with it will secure a kill. Blink strike is fantastic for very offensive gameplay, good for getting in with close combat fights to secure a good kill or closing the distance easily. If there's anything to complain about in regards to hunters it's the fact it's very hard for us to generate a good amount of orbs with our supers.