[quote] I look at things holistically and make my judgments after that.[/quote] I hope I say this the right way, but I think this may be some peoples' problem. Whole thing at one time without consideration for the fine particulars. The masters did both. Thats what they did and if you look at the MC collection you see both. You are constantly going back and forth between both, like mario. I'm not being too optimistic, because the thing about Destiny is that it was almost supposed to be too big of a bite to chew. So its somewhat succeeding, but at the same time it can start to feel like its lacking. If you were around in the 2000s. Not lacking in any of the technical stuff or resources. But in particular modes or at particular times its like you're being told "its destiny" and that should be good enough, which it is, and even more sometimes. But with halo it was like all the bases were covered becasue it wasn't good enough for the people making it until it couldn't be questioned, like mario. Then of course they could add things like dmr bloom which I never experienced but saw yesterday and could tell, and they could get away with it. Even "throw money at the screen" was something they could get away with in the beginning of this game. [quote]Consider Crucible matchmaking. On paper, a lot of the changes Bungie said they were implementing appeared like it would. However, when it comes to the actual implementation in-game, you begin to realize that Bungie has either made the issue worse or they deceived us.[/quote] PvP has a player problem. In that people have learned to get what they want out of it by complaining. Its a rewards problem that was exacerbated by the awesomeness of rewards without anyone thinking of the possible negative consequences. Its not the end of the world its just that someone needs to be really putting that at the forefront of their thinking with respect to how people will act once they see something they desire. People have different approaches and some of them aren't necessarily conducive to the Bungieness that we all deserve.