SHALL NOT STOP. At least not by me. What can the dead weights offer in VoG? Counter my statements one by one and I may reconsider their value. 1. Their melee...is a joke. Defenders can Shield, Strikers can Aoe, Voidwalker OP, Sunsinger burns + Shield. Hunter?...throwing knife...yeah...useful. Blink strike...yeah...useful... 2. Their ults are a joke. Bladedancer is useless for obvious reasons. Gunslinger's peashooter (yeah ok it hits somewhat hard, don't over exaggerate it, I know how hard it hits.) is a 3 shot chump. Compared to what the Titan (even the striker) and Warlocks have to offer, they are -blam!-ing useless. Striker's ult can at least leave/send a shockwave forward. Defender shield bubbles offer buffs. Voidwalkers nuke a large area of the map. Sunsingers literally bring 'hell' to the entire map. (Sidenote: There is currently an ongoing Sunsinger infinite revive glitch. It can be a safe precaution.) 3.Their grenades are again, a -blam!-ing joke. ALL of the gunslinger's grenade options are complete shit in VoG with the exception (barely even passable) of the mine grenade which can help take out the praetorians, KEY WORD: HELP. Does not mean it takes the bugger out. Bladedancer's only redeeming grenade is the arc bolt which even then only goes off ONCE whereas a Titan's lightning grenade does MORE dmg and with the aftershock perk (which should be on at all times.) lasts and make it go off multiple times. 4. Hunters are dead weight, including in PvP. Rather than try and defend your status, preach for a buff. -blam!-ing idiots. Edit #1: To hunters trying to showcase their little peashooter (Nerf Gun) 1-shotting oracles. fatebringer 2 shots oracles, holds 12 rounds without the field scout perk. Has insane reload speed upon a precision kill+explosive damage upon precision kill (Awww Hunter's precision reload crap ain't exclusive no more? *sad face*), and 1-shots every mob in VoG with the exception of praetorians. You mad bros? To hunters saying Sunsingers need revive because they 'suck' or 'intend to die' I say this: No one goes in planning to get slaughtered, but say your partner goes down (yes, your partner, particularly a useless hunter. 'Cuz ya know, VoG is divided into groups. but you already know that right?) and the dipshit gets killed. You're left by yourself to SOLO your damn section, fulfilling a ROLE that was intended to be for TWO people. BUT as an awesome super epic Warlock with your obviously superior skills and ability, you can only last for so long right? (this is in regard to HARD, where res is impossible, unless ofc, you're a Sunsinger~) You die getting outnumbered and blah blah blah, and well...you die right? But guess what? FEAR NOT for the epic radiant Sunsinger will save the day and make up for the useless Hunter's dead weight and rise from the ashes like a glorious phoenix burning everything in it's path, slaughtering the vast number of Vex that once outnumbered the mighty Guardian. You end up providing some nice amount of orbs, but crap...you wasted your Super. What if the SS (SS= Sunsinger) gets outnumbered again? Will he/she last until his/her ult is back up? Well therein lies your team. The ingenious Warlock with his/her superior intellect quickly scurries off to other sections picking up the countless (vast amounts?) of orbs provided by the team's Supers. And well what do you know? It's back to FUKING full~ And that's how Warlocks carry the dead weight of stupid shitty hunters and why we choose revive. To make up for the possible lack of 'power' from someone in the fireteam (typically a hunter). To hunters saying that Titans/Locks cheesed the raid. I'm sure a vast majority of you have asked for a cheese or have participated in a cheese, but can't do it as often as you'd like (solo). I feel the envy. Locks/Titans can do the raid legitimately and without a useless dead weight like the hunter. But if the option is there, why not cut every corner possible? Will it give me higher rate of eco drops if we do it legitimately? You guys are the better players? Hmmm Yeap Time consuming task. Feel proud. I know that feeling. I've both done it legitimately and cheesed it. I'll cheese it whenever I feel like it. The option is there. Sucks you guys can't do it, but more than often suggest it. Edit #2: So much posting, = more bump. Damn. My opinion is final, and not a single Hunter has given any valid proof on how they better themselves than the other 2 competing classes. Hunters are shit now, and will be shit in future patches, but worry not useless hunters. Perhaps, just perhaps your 3rd subclass will be redeemable. Kudos and happy trolling~ o/ Edit #3: Further reasons why Hunters are shitty. Terrible jump. Terrible super (for PvE). Low armor and health. Least aesthetically appealing. They're not as 'op' as people make them out to be, and the cape is meh (fugly as shit). Quit fawning over the shitty capes -blam!-ing idiots the lot of you. I'll take my Amazing Warlock blazer or amazing Titan Master Chief suit. Edit #4: It seems there is a single Valid counter to my post. A hunter can make themselves useful in VoG Hard wiping the Titan and Warlock's boot's. P.S. Hunters are useless, keep telling yourself otherwise if it helps you sleep at night. At the end of the day you hunters bring ABSOLUTELY nothing to the table in comparison to the other 2 classes.