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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk:
11/5/2014 7:32:00 AM
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Deej what is your opinion on people running ahead during Strikes??
I want some kind of official opinion on this kind of practice. I am currently doing the exotic bounty for Bad Juju on the off chance that when it is buffed it becomes a good gun. So of course I have been doing the complete 25 strikes part of it.
I have done 7 in a row so far and 6 of those 7 some guy runs past every single enemy that he can and waits at the next checkpoint while the other guy and me are stuck killing everything along the way. I have no problem killing everything. At this point the level 24 adds are like tissue paper. What gets me is the fact that the idiots running ahead are not actually taking part in the strike that they themselves queued for. They are simply sprinting past everything and avoiding any real gameplay unless they have no choice.
Why should other people or myself have to carry these guys through the strike simply because they are too lazy and impatient to actually do their part? You have stated on many occasions that thi sis meant to be a team game and yet these people are in no way taking part in the team strike unless they positively have to. One of the guys that ran ahead finished with 8 kills. Meanwhile I finished with over 100 kills. Then on the boss fight the guy simply went afk and made the random I was with and myself finish off Phogoth on our own. Once again its not a question of difficulty its a question of principle. I queue for strikes because I enjoy playing the game as well as earning all the rewards that come along with it. I don't want to have to carry people who don't even participate in the strike itself.
Why should this guy get all of the marks, rep, and rewards at the end when he in no way took part in the strike itself?
You guys HAVE to know that this is going on. Either make it to where people can be kicked or make it to where you have to wipe the entire strike before it can be completed.
I am done helping the people that do this. I will either leave and let them finish it themselves or do my best to make sure the strike takes as long as possible. I am not gonna go out of my way to avoid playing the game that I paid for. I get running past low level adds that are in transition areas, but running past enemies that are leveled to the strike itself is just lazy.
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1 ReplyI can solo the archon priest under 10 minutes and i do not care what the other 2 players are doing. I hop on my sparrow and pass everything. Then i put down all the mobs with my fatebringer and put 2 gjallahorn mags in the boss. Thats how i save another 10 minutes of precious time for the whole fireteam.
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I tend to run through them too. No reason to kill the ads, not really part of the goal. The goal is to get to the boss and take him down. However, if the other two guys do not follow in my path I do usually go back to help them.. Very reluctantly haha.
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2 RepliesEdited by OneFoxx: 11/24/2014 2:48:06 PMI always rush the strikes. Sprint to the objective and finish it ASAP for the drops/coins/bounty. Edit: Saying that, if the end of mission rewards [u]were based on kills/assists/damage done to boss[/u], then I would kill everything in my path.
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Didn't really read because of the length, but if you're grinding 25 strikes with the juju, why would you care if you beat it 10x faster?
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6 RepliesI feel like most strikes have mechanisms in place that force speed runners to slow down and participate in the strike, wether it be the rune door on the moon or the lieutenants on mars. Also I find it interesting that you state that you are carrying the speed runner through the strike even though you are actually doing more work than needs to be done in order to complete the strike. I understand if you take joy in wiping out every enemy you come across. In fact this is great, you crush any opposition that tries to oppose you. As a speed runner I enjoy being that slippery weasel that squeezes by the armies of my enemy, as I plunge myself into the heart of their forces. Personally I think that these two play styles can complement each other for the quickest destruction of the enemy army. Let's go through a theoretical strike taking our two play styles into account. For this example I am going to use the valid strike since it's the weekly this week. We begin the strike trying to find valus, not sure where to look we hack into a computer terminal to gather information. We discover where valus is located, but also that his lieutenants are nearby, and that in one strike we can deal a major blow to the cabal army. Unfortunately there is an army between us and them. As we enter the ambush room we see the area filled with cabal that are rushing down on us getting ready to crush our puny skulls with their massive shields. A smile creeps up on your face, this is what you were born for, and with a mighty roar you lunge off into battle slaughtering cabal after cabal. This is perfect for me, you have created a distraction that allows me to slip between the cracks in the cabal ranks as I quickly maneuver towards our objective. Now while you are slaughtering the hoardes of cabal in the ambush room, I have come upon the valley where the lieutenants are waiting. I know that there is no skipping this, I must destroy these lieutenants as fast as possible in order to progress to our final objective. So I start taking out the lieutenants and his petty minions one by one. By the time you finish murdering the last poor cabal soul in the ambush room, I have taken out the first three lieutenants. You join me in time to see a giant tank roll in. We both look at each other and grit our teeth, we know what has to be done. Together we take down the tank in a blaze of glory. Then we race off towards valus, we have the end in sight. Right before we reach the war room we run into another group of cabal. It seems like they were waiting for us, and the smell of blood fills the air. You rush off into battle taking down multiple cabal at once, while again I slip quietly by in order to begin my engagement with valus. By the time you finish your fight in the entry room, valus is already shooting up the war room while I run around dancing over his chain gun shots. I have already put a couple rockets in him, and it's apparent that he is not too happy with that. But with your reunion I find the strength to keep going, and together we take valus down. Celebrating together in the end. Tl:dr even though we have different play styles, we actually complement each other quite well and should get along.
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Sometimes I play through for glimmer or blue drops. I've even got a few legendaries to go along. But for the most part I want my 100 points and to move along the same 4 strikes are getting old
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What are you complaining about?! No one wan't to help you kill dregs?!
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5 RepliesPeople who don't speed run through strikes are the same people that obey traffic lights and stop signs in GTA.
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How are you "carrying" them? Most likely they have the checkpoints completed before you get there and have moved on. I don't breeze past all enemies but there are certain ones I don't fight because of time. Normally I'm grinding out tiger strikes for a reason... Also if anyone stops to fight the low level enemies in the public areas you deserve to get left behind.
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With 25 strikes to complete I would think a little hurry would be in your step!
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If they participate in taking down the Boss then you "carried" no one. When I did the JuJu quest HELL yes I ran past everything I could. Unless you are farming for engrams no point in killing every thing in sight get to the Boss and end it.
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1 ReplyActually I run past everything because A) I've done every strike so many times its no longer fun B) like you said 24s are like tissue paper what's the point C) I am doing the strike I queued for, I'm beating the boss. Killing adds doesn't beat the strike. Killing the boss does.
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Sorry mate, this game is already so repetitive and grindy, so the only reason for me to do a strike is for rep/marks etc..then sorry, I'm not gonna waste my damn time shooting enemies for no damn reason - this game is boring enough as it is without having to repeat the same crap yet again (on the same strike I've played a million times)! I blast through every strike as quick as I can, anyone left behind is not my problem, they can kill all they like and I will finish the strike with my buddy or alone! Killing enemies outside the 'restricted spawning' does not help others with the strike, its just a complete waste of time, and if you're not keeping up, then its you who does not deserve the rep or marks. Simple as! I very very much doubt Bungie players do what you are doing, I'd be willing to bet they are more like what I have described above!
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4 RepliesYou're not "helping" anyone do anything when you lag behind on strikes and compulsively kill EVERY DAMN enemy. No one cares that you want to run around shooting lvl 16 spawns to farm blue engrams. Run past them like everyone else and stop wasting peoples' time. If they DO make it possible to kick people by vote, you're the one that's going to be kicked all the time.
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Too lazy..lol....I run past everything cause ive done everything I can in this game and I'm just playing to max my weekly marks. By the time you fellas catch up to me I typically have the VEX down to half or Ive cleared the first mandatory checkpoint on Mars and am already working on the big tank thingy or Ive cleared the Archon priest area and got him down to half, etc etc. Ive actually beat the VEX before while my teamates were still trying to catch up.....quit playing so slow...
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I agree, there should be a vote kick option but only works on how much score the player has during the strike cause you will run into assholes who will vote kick you before the boss is killed lol. Either way i usually just leave when i find people that just sit there.
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14 RepliesThere is a reason why guys that run ahead in strikes have few maxed out weapons, (at least in my friends list)....they skip all the xp gained from kills lol. When I have lower level guys blow past me, and run way ahead I just shake my head at the young pups :)
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i dont care if they rush past everything, if they feel im slowing them down and leave better for me ill just laugh and welcome the challenge of doing the rest alone,there is no fun in rushing for me
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Edited by Thalia272: 11/24/2014 3:17:58 PMwho are we talking about the guy who does nothing even at the boss and lets you do all the work while he is making a cup of tea realizes he is out of it and goes grocery shopping. which i agree something should be done about this if possible. or the guy that just does the necesary parts in other words runs ahead but clears these parts including the boss. this i dont mind unless you get one of those guys who dies before we get to the checkpoint and then blames us for his failure.
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I skip all adds that aren't a part of the strike like the hive and fallen in the rocketyards on devils lair. You get nothing for killing those and the endlessly spawn. Why waste time trying to eliminate them all? But that being said, I try and kill everything once I'm in the darkness zone with the level appropriate enemies.
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I finished off Nexus by myself the other day because the other 2 on my team were crazy slowww and were doing idk what! If you want to kill everything all the more power to you, but to say it should be necessary is ridiculous... there is a darkness zone for a reason.
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12 RepliesGo back to your bridge troll. No one kills adds in strikes unless necessary, or you're a complete scrub...
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I run through them. And I always force everyone to spawn on the boss when I get there. If you leave at that point your just making your grind of a bounty harder to get.
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I don't understand your point of helping/carrying these people, how exactly are you carrying them. From my point of view and a lot of other players, you are the one slowing them down. I usually sigh when I race through a strike and the team I'm with are killing all the pointless enemies, I don't stop and wait however. It's all about efficiency and getting things done as quickly as possible.
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doing 25 strikes in one go nearly killed me..but I never rushed past all the enemies, or once sat back..more fun getting stuck in there...! even if it is the same thing over and over again... I do go past some of them now though(Like in Cosmodrone, I go past the rocket yard..that's it....) but if I see people staying back I go back and help them.
