Ok guys and girls, we all need to stop, take a deep breath, put on our big-boy pants (figuratively speaking) and stop acting like a bunch of 10 year olds playing cod. We need to end the hate, and that's not gonna happen until this community understands each other, and gives some ground. First off, both sides of this issue must understand that, in general, they are not solving any problems, but simply making things worse. To XBOX: Look, i'm one of you guys, and i'm a veteran here, so believe me when i say that i've felt everything you're feeling... hurt, betrayal, anger. And you're not wrong to feel that way, never let anyone tell you that the emotions you feel are wrong, because you feel them for a reason, but my brothers and sisters, we cannot dwell on those emotions, they'll only get in the way of the reason why we're here, to enjoy the game. The Bungie we knew is fading, and from its ashes a new Bungie is being formed. It started when bungie broke off from microsoft (a dumb decision on microsoft's part to let them leave), and bungie was splintered when Microsoft poached many of the staff members from Bungie. Now Bungie has signed up with a new cash cow, they have new talent and a bigger studio than ever! Things have changed, and they won't be the same again. Despite the special treatment for sony, Bungie still loves us, even though they wanna give microsoft a big middle finger, they're still making the BEST GAME OUT THERE for our console. Don't worry about sony exclusive content, its all timed, we'll get it eventually, but that doesn't even matter because by the time we do get access to it, we'll have long outstripped that equipment, we'll be armed to the teeth with exotic and legendary gear that'll make that exclusive content look like a butterknife by comparison. Now look, we need to end the arguments and act like the veterans we are and show these sony boys how the bungie community is supposed to be... and it's not supposed to be a battleground for the console wars, but a place to swap war stories, to gather with friends and show our appreciation to bungie for providing us with such awesome games! but since the sony boys came in, its been nothing but hate hate hate on both sides. Step Up. We need to not be just the Guardians of the City, but Guardians of the Bungie Legacy. 10 years from now, i want to look back and be proud of how we showed Sony fans how to be bungie fans! Now get out there and #EndTheHate To SONY: Welcome to the community, it's a little crazy right now, as we're slowly learning to accommodate you... we're kind of used to this being our place (with a few mac/pc people still hanging around like ancient hermits that sometimes give out Sage advice, but can also still be pricks too...) Since you're relatively new here, ignore the chaos of the moment and let me tell you what this place is supposed to be about. The Bungie community is not about consoles. The Bungie Community is not about platforms. The Bungie community is about Bungie Games. This pace is here to serve as a pub, where we can swap old war stories, hear new ones, make new friends... Its a place for us to come together to support Bungie, not our console of choice. I'm urging both sides to #EndTheHate, so please keep this in mind when you make comments and posts. I do understand that there is a good many of you that are reasonable, and not necessarily part of the problem, but there are also a good many of you who contribute to the problem while simultaneously complain about it. For example, {xbox user} "bungie betrayed us waaa, lets cancle our pre-oders..." {sony user} "Stop crying and whining, go buy a ps4, its so much better, why can't you get over it..." This kind of response does not result in an xbox user buying a ps4 and converting so as to stop complaining, but results in said user becoming more angry, more frustrated, and causes them to act out more... by, you guessed it, complaining more in these forums. Given time and space, xbox users will cool down, but you cannot hope to quell the complaints by causing more anger. Instead, try a little empathy, like "Sucks for you man, sorry you get less time than us in the beta, but don't cancel your pre-order just because of that, you'll just be missing out on ALL of the fun instead of an insignificant portion of it! Be Brave and stick through it, if you quit now you'll never Become Legend!" Lend them support, not a torch. Even if you won't do that, just please, for your own sake, don't put more fuel to the fire. This place cannot be the Bungie community until we both put this aside and, on september 9th, shoot aliens in the face together and brothers and sister in Bungie. Our two communities have historically, never gotten along well, but this is our chance to change that, at least here we can take a break form the endless bickering of the console war, and do what gamers are meant to do, play great games! As an Xbox community member, i'd like to invite you to see what Bungie.net can really be, come play with us and remember, the enemy is the Vex...or the Cabal.. or the Fallen, or the hive... ...or the darkness.... To EVERYONE: This place is not what it used to be, but we have the chance to be the best bungie community to date. With a new world and new players, we can be bigger and better than ever before! Or we can continue down this path that leads to darkness. How can we truly be the Guardians of the Traveler's light while we spread the darkness? We cannot. We must remember that we are not xbots and sony ponies, but we are Hunters, Titans, and Warlocks. We must remember, not what we are playing on, but what we are playing in! This is the Last City! This is our Destiny! And WE ARE GUARDIANS

Awoken male Warlock

From what I can garner most xbox players concerns aren't about 'TIMED exclusives' but more so Bungies apparent attitude towards Xbox players. We get 4 days of beta PS gets 8 (2 taken off for maintenance) exclusives are fine but you've had your special treatment (exclusives for about a year after launch a PS exclusive ALPHA and now a Beta twice the length of the xbox one) we don't want everything PS players are getting but fair treatment for the Beta shouldn't be to much to ask.

Hey Longface, why did you remove the #Satire from your posts. It made it so much easier to explain to people that you are indeed the best troll ever to grace the pages of this forum. P.S. Never got that animal you would become... Real or imaginary, your choice:-)

Yes but Halo isn't being made by the awesome company known as Bungie.

Xbox had exclusive permanent content for the past 10 years Now got a TIME exclusive, they cry! Couple of month later , they will drop Destiny for Halo (the only game on Xbox)

Yeah and you guys (including me I have both) had Ratchet and Clank, God of War, Uncharted, Infamous ...... Both systems have their list of good/great exclusives it has no relevance on this a multi platform game. Personally I would prefer a total exclusivity over this piece meal exclusivity regardless of it being Xbox or PS. If you are making a multi-platform game then make it the same for all or not at all.

I dont like that xbox has only 4 days, but we shouldnt wine about it. [spoiler]im a ps player[/spoiler]

Long face you are absolutely right. As much as I am looking forward to Destiny, I am more excited about Halo.

Halo was a first party game. Microsoft owned it. Destiny isn't. Not apples to apples. Not saying the whining is justified, but it's not completely unjustified either. Bungie could have handled the situation much better than it did. - Der

For exclusive content I know Xbox players got CoD and Skyrim DLC first. So they have no room to talk about not getting things first or whatever.