Matchmade fireteam GMs are at -40 power with random modifiers further adding to the difficulty level. No self-revive further complicates. However, if you have a fireteam and customize, you can run -20 GMs with palatable modifiers for same grade projection and easily hit the timer. Rewards definitely need to be balanced. Makes no sense to run -40 GMs with sometimes ridiculous modifiers and no self-revive when you could've got the same reward in a third of the time in solo ops.

My favorite part is them flooding the activity with champions, just to remove all your revives once the timer runs out. The perfect Bungie Troll lol

Yesterday I joined an MM on GM, and my team managed to get wiped at the first group, with 2 overload champs in one of those empire hunts. I ressed both, twice, and finally some dregg sniped me from dunno where, I died, and the mission failed. For real, whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be fired and spend their lives flipping burgers and not wasting people's time and money designing shitty video games. Even when you manage to complete these damn missions, you usually will not get a very high score, and the loot is pathetically scarce.

Bro just do solo ops it's fasters and u get u get the same loot as gm

This - this is why I am no longer logging in, plus the grind has become akin to what killed Firefall. It's borderline sadistic and unless you are a masochist paying for this kind of service is not somethiong you seek out. Honestly, I feel Bungie really needs to take a panel of 1000+ casual gamers and let them play in test servers for a minimum of 3 months before they release any new systems or content ... Let us help you make a game for us, not the people making money from the game. We are your bread and butter, we are your baseline consumer litmus, and we would love to really be able to give our true input directly to developers. This game currently has no counterpart in the looter shooter genre, Borderlands is close but Destiny 2 is different beast. While similar elements persist the game play and general flow are vastly different. Destiny 2 has potential still, but this reitteration isn't the direction your core fan base was really looking for as far as I can tell ...

Every activity I have tried on the portal has a timer. Timers are bungie's way of making sure you deserve the loot, just killing the final boss is not good enough anymore. Timers were fine for all the elite players prior to the portal. While us average player were told it was an us problem, to git gud, stop whining, deal with it or quit, we were the problem, not the timers. Now however this one of several posts I have read saying the GM timer is an issue. Timers are the problem, not the players. Timers do not make the game more fun or engaging. I feel for you, but no longer care if it gets fixed or not. Bungie has gone too far and I do not believe they will change direction enough to solve the major issues with the game. They just do not care if the game dies or not. They will continue to turn out mediocre content or lack there of until the game does in fact die.

Some of those mission are long to begin with, and that’s without dozens of champions. Seeing that notice come up that all of your revives are gone (that we killed all those champions to get) is super frustrating.

They should just make it more approachable (easier) and remove the reasons why people leave. I am avoiding matchmaking on those featured fireteam ops because i feel like most people are just not good enough and tend to leave at the beginning or halfway... causing me to waste allot of time... so i dont play anymore unless im with friends

Honestly it's all garbo, tried Ignovun and in the end time ran out, teammate died, i died to the solar comets while trying to disable the second phase shield and last teamnate tried his best but couldn't do much when there's too many enemies to deal with, in the end he tried hiding on the underside (heats up) and both unstops boxed him in on both sides and he ended up dying from the heat vents activating under him. Also the fact that the lmg barrier champ gunned me down while tried dealing with the unstop at the lift before going up, teammate too got killed by it, then i got rez and gunned down again because once it's machinegun is firing full blast it practically instakills anyone even through a rez overshield as you're a sitting duck for a few frames after you're resurrected, it's absurd. Same goes for Yiryx or whatever that Psions name is, from the battleground mission on Nessus, bungie stack TOO MANY modifiers on the activity, more than is required for an A rank. Timer runs out due to how loooooooong this mission is, the "protect ghost to have him scan some Vex construct", then the "kill the Wyverns that are trying to kill these Cabal?? (Lol what bungie why is that even a plot point? Shouldn't we instead have helped the Vex get rid of the Cabal? Why are we using Incendior backpack cores to break their shields which the explosion also kills them?)" Just that portion of the mission is mega slow paced, the final boss is the same, magically goes immune with a God mode shield that's tied to a summoned Cabal ultra???? AHAHA LOLWAT can we stop with this "stop, going too fast, heres an immunity shield because we don't want you nuking the boss like you used to against Protheon in the Inverted Spire (which we too did revamp to for players to spend MORE time in the activity and be sluggish with immunity phases, because "reasons") " bungie? The only fun and balance there is to be had is when WE set up a custom mission/strike/dungeon/etc instead of your curated pick of over the top modifiers that makes these GMs worse than what we used to have which completing them within the timeframe was always possible and easy despite the lethality of enemies

Gms had always a timer. Amd the same wipe mechanic, but the timer pre eof Was 40 mins. This is fine. 15 min is far to short.

The Oracle Mission is -blam!- for timer and score. Gotten to the point where everybody just leaves immediately. I’ve only gotten pass the score threshold once and never again.