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Edited by LeafyBeans: 2/19/2021 11:54:34 PM
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PvP is a Bad Experience

Not fun. Plain and simple. Also doesn't help when I'm forced to play it for things like catalysts. Spent nearly 10 minutes in queue for Control just to get bad team matchups and stasised the whole time. I haven't played Destiny in a couple months and even skipped the first week of the new season and now I remember why. Edit: Since this got more attention than I was expecting I want to clarify what bugged me the most. Being thrown into the wood chipper (PvP) at the start of the new season with a Bow. Everyone knows Bows aren't the play in a Felwinters meta. frustrating and demoralizing to have to get Ticuu Divination final blows in PvP for the catalyst objective when returning for a new season. I'd like to see Bungie implement the choice of grind like they did with earning new stasis abilities. The option of vanguard, gambit, and crucible was definitely a step in the right direction.
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  • Stasis is the worst and totally dominating gameplay and I refuse too use it. Ridiculous out of control abilities

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    • Stasis is bad for pvp. Especially slowing and freezing abilities, those are simply IDIOTIC. When you get slowed or frozen you just feel... hopeless... Does this sound like a fun experience???

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      • Always has been since the release of D1. People just be figuring this out.

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      • Latency and frame rates. This game is cheap

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      • I had this titan (not in his super) ice skate around a corner through the room around me and shoulder charge or whatever that stasis ability is. Probably traveled 15 meters overall. It’s extremely overpowered, and honestly makes me angry that the play testers etc just threw these abilities in. The only one that’s laughably bad is the warlock stasis super. I mean, you have a wand it deserves being weak. I haven’t seen one arc super this whole season besides chaos reach. The balance is so far off.

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      • Edited by coda-jj: 2/20/2021 6:49:43 PM
        Stasis is extremely bad but the Mask of Backris is worse then the One Eye Mask ever was. The fusion rifle range is trash, when every hunter is dodging midway through and bolts don’t stick, leaving them an opening to shorty you very easily.

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      • Edited by GrifterDeMier01: 2/19/2021 9:12:02 PM
        It hasn’t been fun for at least a year. Just wait until cross play gets added. Console player numbers are going to drop off a cliff cuz no one will want to play against pc players. If I am loading into a match and I see anyone on the other team with the name zkmushroom or truevanguard or aztecross or Ifrostbolt or any of these super good you tubers or streamers I’m instantly quitting that match. Cross play will not make this game better at all. Cross play will destroy this games PvP on console even more than it already is. But hey bungie is run by idiots so what else would you expect from them.

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        • Don't worry they have plans to make it much much worse with crossplay.

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          • PVP is a complete and utter disaster. It is just getting worse by the day. Matchmaking does not work at all. Look at the matchs on tracker will have times that the other team has a 95% chance of winning. How is that possible. The connections are absolute trash. I'm not the best player but when you play against people literally rubber banding and you cant even get a single hit registration on a player theres something wrong. Then you look up the players stats and it's a team of .4 or less KD with more losses then wins but you get pub stomped because of their connection. Connection base is BS in the US but am teamed against people in Brazil or Russia ok problem bungie! I use to play the game much more but it is just getting almost to the point of not worth playing. Then there's the cheaters everywhere! Not gonna change ever. The problem is bungie just dont care.

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            • I've come to accept that bungie don't care about pvp and balance I play the 3 games for pinnacle and then I'm out of there

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              • Completely agree. There is currently no harmony in the pvp sandbox, 120’s dominated the meta being completely unchallenged by any other primary. In my opinion the 110 buff to 120 should of happened if all 140 were instead made 150’s do that they were made more inline with each other, if you are gonna be using a 140 in the meta you have to have perfect aim otherwise you ain’t out dualling a 120, before the buff the 110 was a weapon were you put team shots in and if you had a 1v1 dual you peak shot were as now you can do this aswell as having the best dualling capabilities and with the range that all hand cannons have, they have made most pulse rifles and all scout rifles useless. However I do have to credit bungie for the buff to smg’s and sun setting of QuickDraw from high impact shotguns. How I’d suggest to balance the crucible: 1.nerf the revenant and behemoth 2.Nerf the range of all hand cannons, with 120’s having a lot of range drop of compared to other archetypes 3.Either increase the recoil of 120’s or make 140’s 2 head and 1 body, the second option would cater towards the casuals so I would rather the first one 4.Give us bigger crucible maps with more with long medium and short sight lanes 5. Remove shatter dive 6. Dusk field grenades either don’t pull you into the centre of it, or they don’t slow you put still pull you into it 7. Make breaking out of freeze take 0.5 seconds and you take no damage from breaking out 8.slowing only last for 1 second and you are able to jump while slowed you only have your reload speed decreased and you target acquisition does not get affected 8.Give a slight damage buff to high impact AR’s and adaptive frames 9.Emotes are locked till the end of the round or game 10.3rd person sword hilt only works with ammo

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                • They make great raids and the game looks and feels great but they are absolutely clueless as to what makes a PVP game fun and somewhat balanced.

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                • Alright, this is gonna sound stupid, do it without music, or do it with your own music, it’s freaking CALMING with no music.

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                • Edited by wilco490: 2/19/2021 5:08:25 PM
                  Its the match "buff" games every 2 matches where the whole other team ends up with 32.0 k/d and none of us got higher than 0.22 thats infuriating me, while the next matches it could be the other way around. How odd.. As for stasis, i'm still rocking arc staff boy. Because they expected stasis, not 2 skippy nades around a corner 🤣

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                • [b]Never[/b] going to change under [i]Bungie[/i]’s control. Put up and shut up unfortunately. It is what it is 🤷‍♂️

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                • This is what CBMM is, not fun.

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                  • Worst matchmaking I've ever experienced in video game. I'm not sure at this point that it's even [i]playable[/i].

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                    • Connection based when finding players, skill based when separating into teams.

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                      • It’s because of how crazy unbalanced it is now. Needs to go back to SBMM. If most matches are one sided, something is wrong. Mercies shouldn’t be the norm. They shouldn’t be common.

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                        • Edited by amazinj2084: 2/20/2021 8:33:54 AM
                          Yeah im having a much harder time playing. Even the radar cant even keep up. It seems behind and i get blind sided. I think devs need to play ahainst a sweaty clan for 2 weeks 4 hours per day and see what needs to be changed. Mobility in this game is faster than the look sensitivity. Ive seen a hunter dart to different sides of my screen in 3 seconds. Its like swatting flys with hunters. I use a titan so we dont have the advanced radar like hunters get.

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                        • So nerf fusion rifles?

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                        • played my 3 for the pinnacle today couldn't get out fast enough god awful experience felwinter and stassis everywhere

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                          • I'm just tired of shotguns being so damn dominate.

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                            • Second post. It's SO TOXIC!!! I'm coming out of matches in every playlist with players who ONLY use HCs and shotguns. THIS IS NOT HEALTHY FOR PVP!!!!

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                              • I just did my 3 for the week and it made me wanna pull my -blam!-ing hair out. The last game was a whole team with trials gear and stasis and felwinters just camping corners and teabagging when they got kills. Its was frustrating. Switched all my weapons around just so i could kinda compete and still got completely shit on buy that combination. Feels like the metas been nothing but handcannon FW stasis for too long already.

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                              • Its beyond bad and I only ever play Crucible when I am ranking to max level and/or its Mayhem week. Just got mercy and had two games of Control in a row thankfully cut short. Quit the third after the half dozen shots from my Shadow Price did nothing to the Hunter who just slid up and one shotted me with Felwinters Lie. I was thinking that we should just make the crucible Stasis Hunter only with a Hand Cannon and Shotgun mandatory .. but it basically already is. Even Mayhem is now just Stasis Hunters camped in a corner throwing out their mini storm. The bottom line is that Crucible is always going to be this way, any efforts to move it away from that leads to the endless whines and crying from those who genuinely love it like this. They are the ones who also cry the loudest when anything comes along, such as one eyed mask, that threatens their much loved status quo. But wait, its not all bad news, we have the opportunity to grind this miserable experience in Iron Banner for guns and armour we have already had years ago !! .. Count me out. I would rather spend the day practising bleeding. How the company that can make the Harbinger and Persage quests genuinely believe that this miserable excuse for PVP is acceptable is beyond me.

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