Changes would have been fine fine, nerfing every part of a new kit and leaving the other classes untouched is not good balance.
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4 RepliesThis fits Bungie's usual pattern: Nerf Warlock into the ground. Give Hunter the best PVP exotic in the game. Pretend Titans aren't OP in PVP and change nothing. Also, can't tell you how many times I've used Nova Bomb in PVP recently, aimed it at a group of opponents, and killed [i]nobody[/i].
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16 RepliesEdited by MrMac: 11/20/2020 6:03:44 AMWell, Bungie has done it again. They succumbed to the vocal minority and the whiny twitchers and tubers. Why not nerf the Hunter super as well? The duration of that stupid tornado is very long! Also, nerf the Titan super range! All you had to do was adjust the time people get frozen and reduce the penalty on health. But you went further and castrated the entire Warlock subclass. Do you even review your decisions? Play test? Or are you all just slaves to the vocal minority?
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39 RepliesThey straight up broke it. The grenade seekers were a bit overturned and needed dialing back. But they absolutely broke the ranged melee attack. It’s range is so short now that it’s basically useless for anything other that short range defense now in pve. I am so tired of thes pendulum swings, and warlocks always catching the brunt of it. This games pvp will never be balanced...and trying to make it so only kneecaps the power fantasy in pve. They need to let this game BREATHE and stop trying to make it into a third rate Halo clone.
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1 box Betty Crocker™ Super Moist™ yellow cake mix 1/2 cup vegetable oil SAVE $ 1/2 cup water 4 eggs 2 teaspoons ground cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg 2 cups coarsely shredded peeled carrots (3 medium) SAVE $ 1/3 cup finely chopped walnuts Frosting 4 oz (half of 8-oz package) cream cheese, softened 2 tablespoons butter, softened SAVE $ 3/4 cup powdered sugar 1/4 teaspoon vanilla Best with Pink Floyd's "Welcome to Machine" Now we talk about how Warlocks been done dirty.
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7 RepliesEdited by FLaTLiNeD79: 11/20/2020 8:46:04 AMFirst to say is that I don´t blame PVP players for voicing their concerns on the warlock. A nerf was needed in PVP. BUT This outcome is just ridiculous and Bungie is to blame for it. The nerf to the melee range was not tested in PVE! A 'ranged' melee that doesn´t activate below 7 meters (b*tchslaprange) and maxes out at 16? Are you even serious? I don´t mind the rest, but why cripple a ranged CC subclass, if you could have made the melee just slow down guardians instead of freezing them? No, you have to f*ck with peoples muscle memory regarding the warlock melee 2 days before the raid. Thanks for nothing Bungie. I wont even farm for more fragments for the subclass. It´s pointless. This was a bad way of handling things for both PVP and PVE, because it divides both playerbases even more. Regards Im just p*ssed off
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This is funny.
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4 RepliesEdited by Tamacountry: 11/20/2020 2:13:31 PMNearly all the changes were fine, The ONLY thing they shouldn’t have touched was the melee range. It was fine as it was and with the speed reduction would’ve made it way easier to dodge, the range decrease was completely unjustified. What made the Warlock melee strong was the insta freeze...
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I miss over 75% of my Warlock Stasis melees now. The range is just horrible.
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5 RepliesMy perspective as a crayon-eating Thundercrash main: I admit that I don't think anything needed a nerf to Stasis yet, I view the Hunter Stasis tornado thing to be the most annoying, Warlocks are supposed to be powerful so this must be a real pain for you all. Warlocks, I love you guys, even though Bungie doesn't
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Might as well use nova warp 🤷♂️
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RIP Shadebinder. It was fun while it lasted.
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Without a doubt, Bungie went way over the top with the recent nerfs. It baffles me that they continue to be this inept. Worst part is that they can't even defend themselves on this one. If changing freezing timer from 4.85 seconds to 1.35 seconds is actually necessary, than who the -blam!- idiot dumb shit at Bungie would have had the freeze almost 4 times as long as it needed to be to begin with?! If 1.35 isn't long enough, who the -blam!- idiot dumb shit at Bungie decided to almost quarter the original freeze time?! What a bunch of stupid assholes.
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People need to approach these changes in a more productive way. People are abusing the forums (including myself at times) with how they’re delivering feedback. These are a great starts to balancing things, and they can get better. Some things take more time If the tone of the feedback is continuously negative to the nth degree, don’t be surprised if bungie pulls the cord on Destiny early. They’re literally working on other projects right now, they have future plans. Destiny will slowly be moved out of their scope. So if you enjoy playing this game and want more if it, be a little more patient and definitely more grateful.
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1 ReplyYup the range on the melee ability is worthless now in pve and pvp
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They nerfed it way too much, but don't worry Hunters will get their slow on dodge aspect soon and break the game. The only question is will they ever get nerfed?🤔
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Well now I have an excuse to go play kakarot
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I think it was necessary, but they need to give the melee more range, it can’t go any further than two inches which makes it useless.
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Edited by JOYROCK: 11/20/2020 3:48:23 PMas my titans stasis super is active, if you punch in the air and smash instantly youll smash and dive 50 ft away, but if you do that you lose your punch until you die, not just your super punch but regular punches too, so yeah do that in survival see how you like it , when you need to kill yourself to get your punch back, very annoying
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15 RepliesEdited by XCptCronchX: 11/20/2020 5:52:11 AMThis is a cancer and the Youtubers 1000% affect this when they title all of their videos “Broken”. First few days kinda blew but you figure out as you go how to adapt and overcome. I was just kinda figuring out some counters and how to avoid things...nvm I guess Can we now agree that BUNGIE has been consistently making decisions that just completely disregard the player...I mean it’s just one thing after another. I’m not a warlock but I think it was a bit overkill. it’s so frustrating as a player.
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Edited by vidici1979: 11/20/2020 3:47:56 PMtry private match with only hunters and titan against full match of warlocks and show that on forum but with players with similar skills if you have right we will see...in d2 my friends stop playing one by one so now i play casual but in d1 i did everything and i play only pvp and raids to help new players Destiny is pvp not just pve game dont forget that
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4 RepliesEverything was justified except the melee range nerf
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When one nerf would do bungie always uses 2. Well, at least 2. The freeze duration across all classes was really broken.
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mad cuz bad is out and about, again, in the forums.. meanwhile, ill keep using this op top tree dawn with necrotic, celestial and thorn...
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1 ReplyOnce again they nerfed the wrong class, #nerfallhunters
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6 RepliesI have deleted destiny 2. I refuse to play until they fix the subclass.