Bro make some friends or refer some irl friends this game. I was just like you back in d1. It’s a pain but it’s worth it

[quote] Adding matchmaking to all these playlists will not change the experience of pre-made groups, or people who have access to a large friends list to play with. [/quote] It would in the long run. When enough teams consisting of 4 players without a mic and 2 AFK:ers has failed the initial encounter over and over again - there would be complaining about the difficulty of the raids, that they're too hard, even impossible to beat. And eventually Bungie would dumb them down and we would have 45 minutes strikes instead of raids. I agree that dungeons and Master / GM nightfalls could absolutely work with match making though.

When y’all can figure out things like making the blighted public event heroic, using appropriate mods for activities, not having shit load outs (last word, thorn etc for pve) and having/using a mic then sure. But until then, no way. So many people are either lazy and don’t give a shit or expect carries. Image trying to do a raid and people constantly quit then you’re having to wait for someone else to match in. With all the above, it would be a complete nightmare. [spoiler]use LFG or the in app fireteam finder. Again, this comes back to laziness and expecting shit done for you. [/spoiler]

[quote]Raids, Dungeons, Nightfall Strikes....[/quote] *looking at the random player who doesn't know how to charge the orbs in the corrupted strike* Well yea, have fun with that.

Just no

NO.

As much as it sucks that raids are inaccessible for many players, I would hate to see the toxic rage if raids had MM. If anything went wrong, if the team didn't kill the final boss, if a newb didn't understand a mechanic, if someone died, etc, everyone would gang up on the scapegoat.

No

Lol no.

Beware what you wish for. Only this week, The corrupted NF Master : Half people don't have the correct mod, and get wrecked by champions. Those same usually people have no idea how to charge the orbs. But it's fine, bc it's medium content, so still doable "by yourself". Now, imagine the same ratio of people not really kwtd in a raid, without com, with people who may don't commit ? You're talking about +6hours raid session. It could leads to catastrophic experiences for players - so not so sure about the "more players would play" idea in this case. The only valid point I see, is that bungie should be more clear upfront about what part of the game need a fire team for people about to buy the game - so no more excuse about the "we pay for the game, we should have acces to the whole content".

[quote]Raids, Dungeons, Nightfall Strikes....EVERYTHING should have matchmaking. I don't understand why much of the endgame content is behind a "join a community/get friends" gate. My best guess is that Bungie has this idea of a 'Mommy state' that decides what content is too difficult without a pre-made team, and that is bull....They have chosen to 'guide' players towards success with their own misguided judgment. And the result is only punishment of casual players without a friends list. They already have power caps for guiding players towards acceptable content. If normal strikes are the hardest content bungie thinks a random group can accomplish, they are very mistaken, as most of my random match-made groups destroy strikes like they are cheese. I can solo most strikes, they are not harder than the story missions(which have been designed to be solo'd). Nightfalls are not any more difficult than Gambits. Why is the slightly more challenging, endgame content blocked from casual gamers who don't have time to find a community or friends? Why has my experience with this game, been cut short of the full content? Adding matchmaking to all these playlists will not change the experience of pre-made groups, or people who have access to a large friends list to play with. They will still prefer their team mates over randoms. It will give those people more freedom, to play without their pre-mades. And will open an entire part of the game to people without access to a group, Part of the game we all paid for. There is no good reason to not have matchmaking for ALL content. PS: yes, online match making/looking for group does exist, But is a very unnecessary part of the game. Matchmaking already exists ingame for over half of the content, Bungie could probably flip a switch in the code opening missing parts of the game to everyone.[/quote] Nope, not needed. This forum would be full of threads complaining about afk’ers.

Randoms cant even do heroic contact events even though it literaly tells you what to do

if you've ever been stuck in the Corrupted Strike with two blueberries, most likely New Lighters who had no idea what they were doing, and I'm talking about throwing them the ball on the elevator/boss fight, and they just throw it away and shoot at me like I interrupted their attempts at killing an invincible enemy...and end up doing the entire strike mechanic SOLO just to finish it, then you would disagree with matchmaking being a thing for all content. It's ridiculous idea. You don't want to raid with random players. I don't want to be the one guy stuck with 5 New Light/Blueberries in a raid and having to carry all of them through it. If you want people to play with, join a clan. There are hundreds out there, and they always play together, and get engrams for doing as such. The only requirement is to just play, and you meet a lot of great people. Joining a clan literally takes nothing more than clicking a button and waiting to be accepted. On the other point of Nightfalls being easier than Gambit, get two other random people in LFG and try running a Master or Grand Master Nightfall and we can have a conversation. Those are difficult with even a cohesive unit - matchmaking? With random blueberries? No thank you

No. There's no good reason for raids and trials to have matchmaking. "Why is the slightly more challenging, endgame content blocked from casual gamers who don't have time to find a community or friends? Why has my experience with this game, been cut short of the full content?" Simple. You don't put in the effort to get involved and make connections. That blame is soundly on you and whatever choices you made to keep yourself in the casual position.