[b]Edit[/b], [i][b]la finale[/b][/i]: we got an [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/cxrz0v/i_dont_think_we_should_accept_reskins_as_raid_loot/eyok19l/?context=1000t]official response about the state of the armor[/url] and are getting more information soon. It'd be nice if we give them some slack and then see what they have to present for further discussions.
Since the rest of the thread is not relevant with the above revelations, I've moved it into the spoiler below, but it is still accessible in its entirety for anyone interested in what was going on here.
[spoiler]TL;DR: Pax west leaked the Garden of Salvation raid armor for hunters, which is a reskin of a CoO Eververse armor set, instead of providing a new set of Black Garden themed armor, which we previously saw in the Shadowkeep ViDoc.
Not TL;DR:
Earlier this day, [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/cxqahr/new_exotic_trace_rifle_divinity_found_in_black/]this post[/url] revealed the new Exotic trace rifle, Divinity. OP pointed out that it is found in the raid collection, meaning the armor that is found along side it, is the raid armor set for the hunter from the Garden of Salvation raid.
The issue with that being, that the armor is basically a [url=https://i.imgur.com/2he6JZL.png]reskin of the Curse of Osiris Omega Mechanos Eververse armor set.[/url]
Now, where is the issue with that, I hear you ask? Well, the issue is that we had a preview as to [url=https://i.imgur.com/5SlyRye.png]what the Garden of Salvation raid armor initially could have been,[/url] as it was seen in [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlLggoGgLGA&feature=youtu.be&t=310]the first Shadowkeep ViDoc.[/url]
Now, why this is upsetting, I hear you ask? Well, this is upsetting, because the armor we could have gotten as a raid reward, was moved into the monetization section of the game, namely, [url=https://i.imgur.com/Y0X8Eft.png]the Season of the Undying universal ornaments.[/url]
If you compare those 2 sets, you can see that [url=https://i.imgur.com/a1KccZl.png]they're basically identical[/url], with model changes made to the hunter and titan helmet, plus the texture changes to account for the Black Garden theme.
This change in the aesthetic of a previously leaked armor, with an obvious black garden theme, with the Season of the Undying not being centered around the black garden, with the Season of the Undying universal armor set looking just like the previously leaked armor that was hypothesized to be the Garden of Salvation raid armor, while the actual Garden of Salvation raid armor is a reskin, makes it look like that they decided to use the better-looking armor set as an incentive for their monetizations, after changing it up a bit to fit the Season of the Undying theme more appropriately.
This is quite the bummer because getting the Black Garden themed Vex armor would have felt like a thing we asked for years to return to D2, where we basically scavenge the enemies we defeat for their stuff and use it for ourselves and with that in mind, I'm looking way less forward to playing the raid, now that I know that the armor it will reward is just reskins with glows slapped onto them.
Now, what can we do about it? Well, we can provide constructive and respectful feedback and hope the devs see that we're not pleased with the decision to axe the supposed raid armor to use it as bait for people to buy into the Season of the Undying.
What do you think of this whole situation, let's give your feedback down below.[/spoiler]
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4 RepliesEdited by Dreams_Adrift: 8/31/2019 9:22:43 AMDid you know most of the dreaming city endgame armor set are just reskinned blue armor?
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With the exception for shadowkeep itself, we should not accept the new y3 content structure with this season pass bs. What you're pointing there is basicaly what bungie and other companies do for a long time! I've nothing agaisnt re-used content or reskins for gear and weapons if they don't charge that again! But tbh, re-used content is what they've should use to the y3 instead of this bs seasonal events.. Make it free with shadowkeep and sell battle passes.
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Nobody has ever accepted reskins its just one of those things bungie will keep doing
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4 RepliesWill likely be the horde mode gear.
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* I don't think we should accept reskins. FTFY
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3 RepliesI don't think they should leak any raid stuff ever. Like why is this a thing? Just let people see it for the first time when it drops.
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Respectful feedback is the more I read about how the games going, the more I'm turned off. Putting vex armour, that would have been perfect as raid gear, into the cash shop, and having the most prestigious armour in the game, the new raid gear, being reskinned year 1 armour, shows their clear intent.
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3 RepliesEdited by Hitchenson: 8/31/2019 12:39:01 PMI really don't care.
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i found a pic and blew up the screen def. looks like the raid armor but when u zoom in it actually looks badass and glows as well. The cape has thorns around the brim and has the appearance of forest elvish vibes mixed in with metal that glows blue with laser patterns going through them
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2 RepliesBump for clarification
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Raid loot should indeed be the bare minimum of new gear
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7 RepliesMeanwhile Vex Offensive seems to reskin the guns of Mercury.
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Agree, re-skinning expansion loot is ridiculous and players should bombard Bungie with negative feedback if that is the case.
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It's not just raids it's all armor. Everything is lazy and unappealing. Look like a machine, look like calus -blam!- child, look like a samurai weeb,look like vex for mutiple sets.
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Edited by BC1 Edge: 8/31/2019 8:22:31 AMBungle: “you have accepted it since day 1 D1, why the change of heart now?”
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“It’s too hard to make content” - Bungie
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1 ReplyThanks for this post, Shadowkeep is gonna be a no from me, going to wait for D3.
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You don't sound like a little baby who doesn't know what everything past oct 1st will offer. Get my upvote for that alone.
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Eh. Raid loot in D2 never have that exciting feeling to chase them. :l
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7 RepliesWas not the raid armor but the seasonal activity armor 🤦♂️
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19 RepliesI don't see an issue, It's like comparing Prestige Leviathan armor being a reskin of the Normal Leviathan armor.