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Edited by MaidGalaxy: 8/31/2019 8:48:16 PM
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I don't think we should accept reskins as raid loot.

[b]Edit[/b], [i][b]la finale[/b][/i]: we got an [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/cxrz0v/i_dont_think_we_should_accept_reskins_as_raid_loot/eyok19l/?context=1000t]official response about the state of the armor[/url] and are getting more information soon. It'd be nice if we give them some slack and then see what they have to present for further discussions. Since the rest of the thread is not relevant with the above revelations, I've moved it into the spoiler below, but it is still accessible in its entirety for anyone interested in what was going on here. [spoiler]TL;DR: Pax west leaked the Garden of Salvation raid armor for hunters, which is a reskin of a CoO Eververse armor set, instead of providing a new set of Black Garden themed armor, which we previously saw in the Shadowkeep ViDoc. Not TL;DR: Earlier this day, [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/cxqahr/new_exotic_trace_rifle_divinity_found_in_black/]this post[/url] revealed the new Exotic trace rifle, Divinity. OP pointed out that it is found in the raid collection, meaning the armor that is found along side it, is the raid armor set for the hunter from the Garden of Salvation raid. The issue with that being, that the armor is basically a [url=https://i.imgur.com/2he6JZL.png]reskin of the Curse of Osiris Omega Mechanos Eververse armor set.[/url] Now, where is the issue with that, I hear you ask? Well, the issue is that we had a preview as to [url=https://i.imgur.com/5SlyRye.png]what the Garden of Salvation raid armor initially could have been,[/url] as it was seen in [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlLggoGgLGA&feature=youtu.be&t=310]the first Shadowkeep ViDoc.[/url] Now, why this is upsetting, I hear you ask? Well, this is upsetting, because the armor we could have gotten as a raid reward, was moved into the monetization section of the game, namely, [url=https://i.imgur.com/Y0X8Eft.png]the Season of the Undying universal ornaments.[/url] If you compare those 2 sets, you can see that [url=https://i.imgur.com/a1KccZl.png]they're basically identical[/url], with model changes made to the hunter and titan helmet, plus the texture changes to account for the Black Garden theme. This change in the aesthetic of a previously leaked armor, with an obvious black garden theme, with the Season of the Undying not being centered around the black garden, with the Season of the Undying universal armor set looking just like the previously leaked armor that was hypothesized to be the Garden of Salvation raid armor, while the actual Garden of Salvation raid armor is a reskin, makes it look like that they decided to use the better-looking armor set as an incentive for their monetizations, after changing it up a bit to fit the Season of the Undying theme more appropriately. This is quite the bummer because getting the Black Garden themed Vex armor would have felt like a thing we asked for years to return to D2, where we basically scavenge the enemies we defeat for their stuff and use it for ourselves and with that in mind, I'm looking way less forward to playing the raid, now that I know that the armor it will reward is just reskins with glows slapped onto them. Now, what can we do about it? Well, we can provide constructive and respectful feedback and hope the devs see that we're not pleased with the decision to axe the supposed raid armor to use it as bait for people to buy into the Season of the Undying. What do you think of this whole situation, let's give your feedback down below.[/spoiler]

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  • Who cares? 🤷🏿‍♀️

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  • I'll give them a pass in this DLC for things like this 1. Because I hardly played CoO so I never got that armor... and 2. Because a lot of effort has gone into armor 2.0, finishers, endgame difficulty settings and a new Artifact system... These are things that will fill the part of the gameplay that we're always experiencing, while a reskinned armor set is just... A slight annoyance. Next raid to come around tho I expect armor that is new and looks good enough to represent the challenge we overcome.

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      I agree, I started playing d2 when Forsaken launched and never played d1 but I do understand why this is unacceptable considering the new eververse vex set is 10x better than this raid’s armor (and I don’t even raid!) I am still excited for shadowkeep but am disappointed with the reskins, hopefully it’s not as bad as we think it is and shadowkeep does give d2 the glowup it desperately needs.

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      • Pretty simple solution... Don't buy Shadowkeep.

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      • I don't think we have a choice in the matter.

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      • I don't think we have a choice in the matter.

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      • Every digital item in any game that performs the same function as another item is a "reskin", I am not sure what the the problem is... Raid - should have it's own set of ornaments. Competitive - should have it's own set of ornaments. Iron Banner - Ornaments Planetary destinations - ornaments Lost sectors - ornaments Gambit - ornaments And so on and so forth. Pinnacle activities should have pinnacle mods, perks, glows, whatever. There should be a base set of armor, generic pve, pvp set. When you are in a raid, or whatever, you get a piece of that armor dropped with commensurate ornaments, perks, mods. Set up your gear as you wish. Knowing that only people who do that activity have a chance at that customization. Again, not sure why people are so bent out of shape about moving to a more or less full customization system that still has exclusivity based on the activity.

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      • Is the Shadowkeep warlock raid armor a reskin as well? Looks new to me apart from a resemblance to the armor from the first winter solstice gear. Anyone know?

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        • The majority of the DLC looks like a reskin.

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          • No raid gear should be reskins, all raid gear should be unique and some strong. D1 got it right with many of its raid weapons and gear. D2 has failed miserably and Bungie wonders why Destiny 2 raiding is less popular than D1.

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          • Absoluty shocking. 100% guarantee eververse gets brand new sets. It's already an old play area they are using and even the new raid armour is a -blam!-ing reskin. Everything I hear about year 3 is doing nothing but put me off.

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            • Let's wait for datto to do and make no fuss over this at all. But good to hear him complain about well and hammerhead all the time.

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              • Edited by AceMaverick24: 9/1/2019 2:51:22 AM
                Why the hell is everyone on here shocked and disappointed??? Are you all ignorant and clueless?? This is what Bungie has been doing for the past 2 years. The entire BS annual season pass has been reskined, recycled, reused trash over and over and you all suck it up off the tit of Bungie over and over... stop buying this garbage!!! Seriously just stop buying it! That’s the only way they listen! The player base is already at pathetic numbers and clans are non-existent ghost towns. Oh look shadowkeep! Another recycled labeled as new content garbage! This game has died and going in the complete opposite direction it’s baffling. Enjoy that pay to win fortnite BS garbage

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                • That's not going to stop me from enjoying the game.

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                • Edited by DarkOverlord_9: 9/1/2019 8:41:43 AM
                  You are dealing with lazy, incompetent, greedy, shady, despicable disgusting hacks that pretend to be devs. What the hell did you expect? They are scummy scam artists. Nothing more.

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                • The moon is a reskin with maybe a few new things thrown in. We have had a lot reskins all along. It seems Bungle hasn't a clue how to create anything new and original. I am disappointed that they aren't capable of putting out original content. The fact they thought an entire dlc focused on Gambit and another one on forges scares me still. The only vote I can give them is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE

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                  • This

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                  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TSXEQhZSZk

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                    • Leaky I thought all eververse armor was going to become universal ornaments. So does that mean the CoO eververse set won’t become ornaments because it’s reserved for raid armor? This is so dumb

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                      • I mean, wasn't everyone saying since launch that Eververse had better looking armor than anything else in the game? Cause you know that Eververse is gonna have some dope ass ornaments for this raid gear for a small fee of course. Unless they are pulling our leg and you can level up the Raid Armor like the Solstice gear and when it's fully complete it'll look dope as hell.

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                      • Have you seen the shit diaper product we get when Bungie is given slack? He'll no, they deserve all the scrutiny we can possibly give them. Raid armor that's reskinned eververse armor. Can't wait for the weapons to end up being random roll prophecy guns which have nothing to do with the black garden. Further proof that shadowkeep will offer very, very little in terms of actual pve content and is really just an inflated QoL update we all have to pay for.

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                      • This is why I still think Bungie should shelve D2 and let the franchise go quiet for a few years. Work on D3 and fill it with all new and exciting things. Take the time so morale can improve and there feels less of a need to reuse assets to make the dlc cutoff date. We keep hearing that making content is hard but if they never break the cycle in which that content is released they never escape that problem. So either the company implodes from keeping a production schedule that they repeatedly say is unsustainable or the content that is released becomes more and more mediocre until that causes the company to falter due to disinterest from the consumer. They can’t sustain a live game so cut losses and focus on releasing high quality single release focused games.

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                      • All of the above is upsetting only to D2 noobs who still don’t want to understand that everything is just a plain long series of recycles, downgrades, patches for new metas, and mostly for those who are naive enough to pre order on a cheap sales rep’s speech. It is also a lesson to all the kids who believe that a corporation can deliver better quality products when on lower staff, less qualified, lower budget, more legal constraints from other clients, and not assisted by the best studios in the world anymore. See Bungie is like that Californian hottie in this bar for adults. The first time you see him/her dance on your lap you go crazy, but then after a few dances you realize that he/she only knows a few moves, and as he/she gets old?l, the dance is less sexy, less exciting, so you end up throwing much less money at him/her. Alcohol is what bar tenders use to fool clients into not realizing the difference. Bungie had so much alcohol in storage, unfortunately they thought throwing ice in our pants would do better.

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                        • I don’t think we should accept reskins period.

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                        • "Accept"? When have Bungie ever run anything by you guys first? You guys have been [i]accepting[/i] Bungie's mediocrity for far too long. Now that they know what they can get away with with you, they're pushing their luck more and more. Every update a post like this comes out and you guys still [i]accept[/i] their bullshit. Only one way to show them how you really feel...

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                        • It seems all the ideas, all the innovation, all the quality, all the quality control, all the inspriration, all the passion, all the fun exciting engaging gameplay, ended once the current Bungo ran out of content that had been envisaged, planned and designed by the old(er) Bungo ie the people who conceived Destiny. Who'd have thought lol!

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