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6/21/2019 9:03:18 AM
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Bad move disabling matchmaking for heroic Menagerie
Menagerie has received high praise, and a lot of that has been due to matchmaking without having to get on the mic and not having to wait on an ideal 6 man team from lfg. Why in the world would you go away from that for the heroic version? Just to appease the miniscule, hardcore player base, so they can feel special about themselves? You should have just changed the encounters slighty, increased the difficulty where a wipe took you back to a checkpoint instead of orbit, and kept matchmaking. I'm probably not even going to attempt the heroic version because I know it won't be fun having to deal with the same mess the raids bring to the table. Bad move, Bungie. You need to move away from forcing people onto lfg to complete activities.
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I have a strong feeling the heroic version will become useless after the first two weeks after everyone gets their swords and other heroic exclusive things. And no, matchmaking for a 770 POWER LEVEL ACTIVITY is a terrible idea.
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21 RepliesI love it. I don't have to worry about blueberries being idiotic and not knowing what to do. I don't want to throw my head at the wall making a bet for good players with matchmaking. I'd rather pick and chose who I want. It's going to be 770. Don't think anyone is going to want 730 or 740 blueberries going in and dying in one hit, and dealing no damage.
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1 ReplyEdited by Whisk, Beater of Eggs: 6/22/2019 11:39:59 PMIf you’ve ever done tier 3 reckoning after the super exotics nerf with randos then you should know why they did this
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if you dont get why they haven't put matchmaking in then you are the reason they haven't put it in, have you not played reckoning with matchmaking, maybe you should really think before creating these posts
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38 RepliesReckoning has one mechanic, don’t die. Matchmade blueberries can’t manage it. Heroic menagerie will require constant communication with the punishment for any mistake being a wipe. You’re lying if you think a silent underleveled group of blueberries will be able to complete it.
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Still no upvotes. The Destiny community finally comes together on something 🤣
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I am going to strongly disagree. I am going to allow others to state all the very obvious reasons. I am lazy today. That is all.
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No. Never.
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3 RepliesIt’s 770 difficulty, 98% of the playerbase won’t be able to do it. Hell it feels like 98% can’t even do the normal mode
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Have you considered that they may have disabled it for legitimate reasons?
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Same here. I loved doing raids but now I don’t cause some people are so toxic.
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Im pretty sure the heroic version looks a lot more hard and definitely not matchmaking friendly... especially since YOU CAN fail this
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24 RepliesEdited by A Lion of Judah: 6/22/2019 8:39:21 AMIf matchmaking existed for raids. Less people would use LFG, forcing the skilled players to help the non skilled ones, and yea youd have a week or two of beating your heads into the wall, but eventually the community would master the activity TOGETHER, and even blueberries would be getting through. As of now, people who are good and know how to beat the encounters, only play with those who also know, If you're new to it, even lfg isnt a friendly place to go. At least with matchmade you couldnt be kicked for no reason at the end. Everyone saying lfg is better because too many randoms are trash.. Well.. If the good players could matchmake easily, they could end up teaching the newbs, and eventually we all get it and do well. Most MMO end game stuff is power level gated, but after that its matchmade. Join a queue or make a team. Because that's how you get the whole player base involved...not just your hardcores. I'll be in the heroic menagerie. I love the thing...and I have a crew ready...but I wish I could go random and see how other people have been doing it without having to spend time getting my ADHD ass distracted on the companion app. I mean, wouldnt it be better with more people getting the experience?
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At least as an option
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1 ReplyFully agree. I was looking forward to playing the harder mode, just to see how it goes. Even if you beat one section and got loot from it, failed the next, restarted. Eventually you'd matchmake with all good solo players and beat it. Pretty lame bungie keeps doing stuff like this. Also, kicking people to orbit is one of the cheesiest things this company does to it's players. The game mechanics can be some of the worst. For instance, you could end up being the last player alive, you melee a thrall with a warlock and the thrall blows up.. The bloom from a warlock melee kills you and everyone goes to orbit. That's how stupid this game can be at times.
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2 Replies0 upvotes. Using lfg or a clan ia perfect for this
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Optional MM should be the thing like Haunted/Verdant Forest etc.
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2 RepliesYeah, um, imagine if Skolas had matchmaking back in the day.
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10 RepliesEdited by Litwicks_Souls: 6/22/2019 8:48:44 AMNah. Let the solo players have their normal mode. Give the actual fans who play this game the way it’s supposed to be played our harder modes. Solo plebs wouldn’t be able to do it anyway.
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It’s time we be honest and acknowledge that Bungle would rather 3% of the community (consisting of 60% content creators) go into 6-man activities. Look, we all know matchmaking would be a mess. That being said, until Bungle starts seeing such low participation rates in their endgame content as a problem and addresses it, then this will continue to be the case. Side Note: If you take out matchmaking from a six-man activity, then it’s just another raid. In the end, until Bungo actually invest in their IN-GAME social and group-finding features, this is obviously what they want.
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I haven’t seen one reason to do heroic yet other than for a catalyst for a pointless sniper. I’ll just keep grinding for god rolls in regular.
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7 RepliesHave you seen anything worth even doing it for yet ? So far I’ve seen that swords drop and probably a emblem and mods. So really who cares if there is no match making. Do you really want to spend hrs trying to complete something with randoms for a sword ? lol. I know I don’t, I’ll be busy farming hand cannons with a smile on my face while they’re pulling their hair out for bragging rights and a weapon they’ll barely use.
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Edited by PsychWard8: 6/22/2019 12:59:15 PMIf you don't like it, then don't play it. That's how I treat Crucible
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Well look on the bright side. Heroic is probably going to be ass. Bulletsponge enemies that two shot you with frustrating modifiers.
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5 RepliesI haven't played in a while so I can't comment from personal experience, but from what I've heard, the Menagerie is popular because Bungie has created a Raid-like experience that the masses can partake in, without the complexities, restrictions, and punishments of a Raid. The changes being made to the Heroic Menagerie are pushing the activity closer to a Raid-like experience, and as such I don't think the Heroic version will receive the same amount of player participation, or player contentment as the normal version of Menagerie. Which begs the question, what is the intended target audience for the Heroic Menagerie? It probably won't be hardcore enough for the Hardcore Raiders, but it will be too tough for Casuals/Semi-Casuals.
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Sorry man i disagree i appreciate bungie making different things for different parts of the player base.
