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Edited by TartarosSauce: 11/10/2016 12:06:14 PM
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Bungie, I am genuinely curious now... Are you trying to kill your game?

TLDR[spoiler]Bungies current content seems to be lacking, and they just seem to be removing any and all motivation to continue playing once you reach endgame content. Trials is supposedly rife with cheaters, Iron Banner no longer has rank packages, the raid is super easy, and there's only one. Why? Why Bungie?[/spoiler] Edit 1: before you say i should play another game, i already am. Im playing skyrim. So stop recommending i play a different game. [spoiler]and anyways, thats kinda the point of thsi post anyways. It feels like bungie is pushing players who have made it to the end away from destiny, thus trying to kill their game. A game should be replayable, but it seems like with RoI, they dont want destiny to be replayable. They want a "hit it and quit it" kinda game.[/spoiler] Edit 2: also, drops mean nothing when nearly everything you own (that you use) is 400, and i highly doubt im the only person with nearly only 400 gear. Dear Bungie, I have been around since the beginning, so i have seen pretty much everything you have thrown our way. I have seen the rise and fall of weapons and subclasses. I have seen gods slain by LAN cables, or more interestingly enough, merely walk off the edge and take their own life because of their phobia of grenades. I experienced the agony of working your way up to a boss in the Prison, and spend several hours struggling to slay said boss, only to have to forfeit all progress and return to orbit due to real life obligations and no checkpoints. I witnessed the beginning of a divide in your community with the introduction of Trials, and the gally or gtfo posts. But that was fine. Then came year two. And with year two came a new subclass, a new raid, new (and a much more improved) story. A lot of good came with year two. Not everything good though. Elemental primaries were taken away from us for some reason, the nightfall flame and bonus was removed as well for no good reason. Year one content that we struggled to achieve was left behind and only select exotics slowly trickled their way back into our possession. Eververse was introduced with the promise that it would fund future live events to be free. But once again, that was fine. The good outweighed the bad, so overall it was a positive year. But now, year three. I know we have only just begun, but Bungie.... What the hell? One of your employees has publicly stated that the lighthouse was always only supposed to be accessible by the best of the best. So that just cut into your community even more. And then you have the cheaters making it so only the best of the best at booting other players, or those who lag so hard they become gods, make it to the lighthouse, and when presented with proof, you do nothing except ban those that bring it to your attention. "Name and shame". And your final expansion, lets be honest, is a little lackluster.... Five story missions and a laughably easy raid. But hey, its all fun and good content. Its just that you had a year, and this is what you have to show for it...? But hey, you advertised those ornaments. Those things look friggen sweet!! What? One a week? Prone to getting duplicates? If i want more, i need to spend even more cash? But but but.... But why?! But hey, at least there is the live events that are being funded by eververse to look forward to right? Right? Wait, whats that? Almost all of the content is locked behind a paywall? But... But i thought it was supposed to be free.... How is it that all of the proceeds accumulated during ttk lead to a worse Festival of the Lost than last year...? Alright. Well, all hope isnt lost. Iron Banner is really fun. Loot galore since Rise of Iron. You get loot from the bounties, and loot from ranking up. Loot EVERYWHE- Wait, what's this? No more loot from ranking up? Then.... Then whats the point in playing after you beat the bounties? What? There is none? Oh. Okay. So, just to recap. Year two, you gave us a few good story missions, and a fun but really easy raid. Thats good. But then you have your most toxic PvP gamemode run by cheaters and red bar deities. You gave us about three hours of content with FotL, and expected it to last two weeks. And Iron banner lasts however long it takes you to complete the bounties before you are out of stuff to do. Im genuinely confused... Do you want us to quickly run out of things to do? Cause that seems to be the case.... I honestly just dont know anymore. Im just really confused. Year one had a lot to do. Two raids, and three prison of elder game modes, nightfall, decent trials, good iron banner. Now. Now we have this mess.... Sincerely, A VERY concerned and confused gaurdian, JoeMonkey13.
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  • Edited by heckin bamuezled: 11/10/2016 2:47:34 PM
    Considering you've reached the new max light on all of your characters, beaten the raid numerous times- potentially beaten the Challenge Modes(?), I feel no sympathy for you at all. You also managed to bitch about the Iron Banner loot system which I do not understand at all.. We get 2 Guaranteed weapons and armor pieces, amazing and significantly high light drops from just playing matches of Iron Banner, and yet you still think this reward system is lacking? You are a very confused and entitled [b]millennial[/b]. This game doesn't owe you anything after nearly 60 solid days worth of gameplay. Probably the most stupid part of this entire post is your title.. You realize this is the last DLC, right? They don't care if this game is "killed" lol. [quote]Year one had a lot to do. Two raids, and three prison of elder game modes, nightfall, decent trials, good iron banner.[/quote] Man you're right! Now we only have 4 raids, Challenge of Elders AND the original Prison of Elders, a* great Iron Banner, trials that is way better than it used to be and we still have a nightfall..? They also added burns to the weekly heroics! This makes them incredibly less tedious and much more fun than they used to be. Also regarding Ornaments? [quote]What? One a week? Prone to getting duplicates? If i want more, i need to spend even more cash? But but but.... But why?![/quote] Because they're cosmetic. Not having them doesn't negatively impact the way you play at all, unless of course you have some sort of inferiority complex. Also the Eververse events are free, they aren't "locked" behind anything..? You can just pay extra to get extra [b]cosmetic[/b] items. Notice a trend here? Not to mention, EVERY SINGLE ITEM in Festival of the Lost was obtainable without spending anything. The Sparrow, the Wolf-Mask- everything. Oh and what about the 4 free shaders we got? How about those? Were those locked behind a paywall? I disagree with nearly all of the points you've made in this post, but I do agree with you regarding the removal of elemental primaries and the name and shaming problem. Bungie has a great concept going but almost every decision they make is poorly executed. For example, the removal of elemental primaries. They removed them so we could have a more diverse weapon pool. Why they didn't make Elemental Telemetries a thing or something that could make any legendary primary have an element confuses me.

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    • I feel the same way. Started playing mass effect series yesterday. First time in over two years i have played something other than destiny.

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    • Man you wanna talk about lacking content.! Dark souls 3 dlc was rather short and only 2 new bosses but you know what I love the game and I'm happy with what they gave me. We all know that posting here and complaining is most likely not gonna get fixed. Destiny has its flaws but you know what I still love the game and still love to play it solo or with my buds. Look man I know rise of iron was rather short but you gotta remember that bungie is trying to provide us content for destiny and at the same time work destiny 2. If anything I have my hope set up high for destiny 2. For all we know destiny 2 might be epics as$ f@ck My friend. Good luck guardian

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      • First off- I can agree with most of what you say. I only have a few points of disagreement: --They had a stated reason for removing the nightfall XP boost, and that was that people felt an urgent need to do the nightfall first thing. I actually like that now I feel like I have all week to do the nightfall- can wait until the weekend. And it's not like we really need that XP boost (if people really needed it then everyone would be doing daily bounties- whereas I'm the only player I know who does them every day) --I like the change to IB- we get more rewards and better rewards. I remember getting to rank 5 and getting useless low light gauntlets. Now we get a guaranteed 4 items per character- and mine have all dropped at 400 light.. Plus there's no more stress about accumulating loser tokens or having to win to progress, so people aren't getting as despondent about going on losing streaks (at least in my experience). --Also, I haven't done everything in the raid yet (and have not tried hard mode), so I can't speak too much about that- but if it is easier, I can see why they would have made it that way. There was a lot of complaining about the complicated mechanics of King's Fall creating stress and turning people off (the fact that one person can biff it for the whole fireteam). So this might have just been Bungie trying to respond and address that issue. Fun over difficulty.

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      • You should play a different game.

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      • Idk if you want to put this in, but there's also the devaluation of exotics. They have been nerfed to the ground to be either weaker than legendaries or barely better. And they are super easy to get through Xur or 3oCs or the 5 raid chests.

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      • Edited by Kreis: 11/10/2016 2:13:53 PM
        YOU HAVE 58 GOD DAMN DAYS WORTH OF STRAIGHT PLAY TIME INVESTED YOU'RE 400 ON ALL CHARACTERS NO SHIT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO GOD DAMN [quote]And your final expansion, lets be honest, is a little lackluster.... Five story missions and a laughably easy raid. But hey, its all fun and good content. Its just that you had a year, and this is what you have to show for it...?[/quote] This DLC was drawn on a damn napkin when they realized Destiny 2 wasn't going to be ready on time.

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        • Idk if you want to put this in, but there's also the devaluation of exotics. They have been nerfed to the ground to be either weaker than legendaries or barely better. And they are super easy to get through Xur or 3oCs or the 5 raid chests.

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        • Do you remember getting weapon and armor from your bounties? Well i don't. That's what you call replacement. They replaced packaged with rewarding bounties. Relevant raid is just one but there are 4 raids in total that you can play anytime. You are not confused, I think you are just Ignorant.

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          • This deserves a huge bump.

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            • I don't think they are trying to kill it, what I do notice lately is they are trying to make things easier and more inclusive. Raiding is easier, light level, gear, banner etc etc It alienates us older players however who went through the grind and it us older players that notice the differences. some of us actually like the grind so now we miss it. It runs out quicker because its just easier, raids are done, books are done and now banner is done all to easily.

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              • People still play this game?

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                • this deserves a bump

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                  • I think someone needs a hug

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                    • when I beat Faxanadu in a day after I got it for xmas I was pretty disappointed too so I feel your pain and outrage.

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                    • Edited by Mr Obitø: 11/10/2016 2:30:17 PM
                      Destiny community response 1- "Play a different " Destiny community response 2- "if you don't play this game why are you here get a life kid" Destiny community response 3- "you must be <15" Destiny community response 4- "blahblah blah blah " Since nobody has enough thinking ability I have to change the joke which further proves my point

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                      • Your hunter is male. YOUR HUNTER IS MALE.

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                        • At least the raid isn't a 6-man strike like CE was.

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                          • You kids kill me!! The games been out over two years, any other two year old games you play regularly? Bored of the content, play something else. Wow

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                            • I agree that I'm running out of things to do. My main Hunter is at 400 and I'm supposed to repeat the raid weekly to get...what? A weekly ornament (wow, seriously)? Gear and weapons that are just either infusion fuel or marks? I have other toons, but I'm not fond of them and, really, a day or so of work and they'll be at 400 too. Equally almost no point in running heroic missions or strikes because at this point 1) they're boring af and 2) there's little to no reward in them (especially with the broken drop rate of skeleton keys). And what's the point of ranking up factions with that 390 ll cap? The vendor items possibly have the best rolls and, again, they are merely one infusion away from top light level. When was the last time your patrolled the old areas just for bounties or material farming? That's right, I can't remember either. There's little to no point in that as well, since you either had a good stockpile of stuff prior to ROI our you might casually pick stuff up on a mission or strike. Or simply just but the stuff you need from the quartermaster. Regardless, the game offers little to no motivation to revisit the old content (missions, strikes, raids, you name it). So what's left? Crucible? Forget that, Trials is the true endgame content. And we all know what that's like. I've managed to seen the lighthouse and I think once is more than enough for me. It can be a frustrating experience for a casual player, only the sweaty elite and the cheaters seem to prosper week after week. It's just November and ROI reached the end of it's cycle. I mean, what's left to do except shelve this game and try or something else new?

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                              • You do not need another game. You need a way man and a life. Most people with lives are only able to get on maybe 2-3 times a week.

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                              • You people have been complaining about the same thing for years...

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                              • [quote]skyrim[/quote] Lol

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                              • When it comes to the IB packages some folks just can't do math. Old system only gave two guaranteed drops, Rank 3 and Rank 5 packages. New system gives FOUR guaranteed drops just by doing four simple bounties. FOUR is bigger than TWO. "But I have no incentive to get to Rank 5". Who cares? Get your bounties done by Rank 3 then go do something else if you want. Nobody has a gun to your head. The four package rewards are easier and quicker to get than the two rank rewards used to be in the old system. Quicker and easier loot. Somehow that's a bad thing?

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                                • What does TLDR mean

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                                  • Once old raids are brought back things will return to year 1 greatness

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