Yep.... The proof are in the games and anyone who is not blinded by bungievision will realize the truth that Warframe is the better game between the two. This is going at the top so people can see it better: [b]Warframe is not pay to win, proof: Pay to win is when you block out items that can [u]ONLY[/u] be bought with real life money. Warframe does not do this because [u]EVERYTHING[/u] in the game is easily obtainable through time and effort. [i]This is a fact, not an opinion[/i]. I will not argue with people anymore if you cannot grasp that simple [i]fact[/i].[/b] [spoiler]It's also been proven that Warframe is NOT pay-to-win. So...goodluck trying to use that illogical reasoning.[/spoiler] I feel like a boss thrashing through these comments correcting people on the myths that they think about warframe and their illogical excuses to blindly hate it even though it has so much to offer. The Pacific Ocean is jealous of all this salt. [b]Here is a[/b] [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjO-Ir9_rLKAhXGrD4KHWPoCKYQuAIIHTAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKUN32LFCRZU&usg=AFQjCNG5Npc001uM5YQ1ngTA3JsrFA-Gog&sig2=86zQdq__hTCCp7hasACJvA&bvm=bv.112064104,d.cWw]Video[/url] [b]showing why warframe is better, [u]no opinions[/u] in the video, just straight up factual comparing and contrasting[/b] I should do a list of pro's and con's in destiny and warframe so you can finally see warframe is obviously the better game. and here's that list now, spoilers because it's kind of big. Now this list is COMPARING destiny and warframe. Since there are too many weapons here are screenshots from a trusted site (i dont want to be banned) showing you all the weapons in each catagory. [spoiler] Warframe's Pros: Primary: http://prntscr.com/9rqgfj Secondary: http://prntscr.com/9rqgos Melee: http://prntscr.com/9rqgwe Archwing: http://prntscr.com/9rqh7p Research: http://prntscr.com/9rqhl7 Warframes (Classes): http://prntscr.com/9rqidu - 14 planets with 15 - 37 missions on each one and a boss - Factions that actually give you rewarding weapons / mods - A story - Clan dojo (hideout for your clan, like a tower but customizable with ranks. - 14 different damage types - Mods that let you customize each weapon / warframe for your play style - Easy farming for materials - Actual vast loot that can drop needed items - Daily alert missions that give you awesome mods / warframe parts - Monthly updates (gigantic updates take up to 4 months) - A helpful community - Codex that is IN GAME _____________________________________ Warframe's Cons: - Movement system can be a bit clunky - Wait times are atrocious when building frames - Doesn't guide you through in the beginning of the game -Lack of mission variety ___________________________________________________________ Destiny's Pros: - Awesome raids that require teamwork - Really nice exotic weapons - Classes are unique - Gunplay is satisfying __________________________________ Destiny's Cons - 3 planets - 3 classes - 5-10 useful guns in each category - No region chat in game to hook up and play together - No trading - Small HUB (tower) - Lack of boss variety - Lack of mission variety - Huge lack of story - Laughable customization options - You can take months to get 1 piece of gear - Putting a paywall in front of people who didn't buy TDB, THOW or TTK. - A very childish community (some diamonds in the rough) - Lore that is not in game - 'Updates' that don't add much if anything to the game at all and are temporary. [b][i][u]So there you go guys, there is NO OPINIONS in here, just straight facts.[/u][/i][/b] [/spoiler] OHHH and here's a video from [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhAJV5D353w]TotalBiscuit[/url], an extremely credible source from a guy who KNOWS what he's talking about because he's a professional. Skip to 2:36 and listen on if you want (you wont because you know you're wrong) but for those who do continue to listen on, he talks about pay to win until 13:49 and he makes a lot of sense. By lack of valid arguments and just people calling me names because they're wrong and provide no evidence that I'm wrong....because they can't. By anonymous decision and on half of Bungie.net forums, [b]Warframe is the better game overall[/b]. [quote][b]Ninja edit:[/b] [spoiler]This thread has been moved to the #Gaming forum where you can discuss games unrelated to Destiny or Bungie's games. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140396851/0/0]See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Gaming tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Profile/254/76974]Old Papa Rich,[/url] for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote]