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3/4/2013 9:28:45 AM
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Is there a difference between assisted suicide and murder?

I watched a film recently which got me thinking about this. In my opinion, yes. But from many points of views and facts, it boils down to a lot of things. If you were to assist someone committing suicide, say by pulling the trigger, because they were too cowardly/scared etc. then you've killed someone right? Murder is the unlawful killing (and some other bullshit on wikipedia). So its not unlawful, but you've still committed a killing. Is their a penalty for this? I've never known. Assisted suicide, Euthanasia in this case, is allowed in Switzerland, and only Switzerland as far as I know. So another scenario to compare - if you had some god-awful disease which rendered you incapable of just about everything. So if you can't talk, and your family decide to euthanise you to end your suffering (voluntary and involuntary is for another time), is this still killing? The difference is that drugs have been used and not a tool of death, although both can clearly kill, does this change the fact that someone is still dead, yet one scenario is legal and the other isn't. Might not have written this out well, but my head is -blam!-ed today. Discuss.
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  • Edited by Honorable Sniper: 3/6/2013 3:43:14 PM
    I think you may be paying to much attention to the world "Kill", which is not the difference between Assisted suicide and Murder. What is important is Consent. And a lot situations hinge on Consent determining the acceptability, rightness or wrongness of an activity. Sex + W/out Consent = -blam!- (not good) Sex + Consent = Sex (good) Beating someone up + W/out Consent = Abuse (bad) Beating someone up + Consent = MMA/Boxing (better) Bondage + W/out Consent = Hostage Taking (not good) Bondage + Consent = Kinky time (very good) Taking someones Car + W/out Consent = Theft (not so good) Taking someones Car + Consent = Borrowing (better) Killing someone + W/out Consent = Murder (not good) Killing someone + Consent = Assisted Suicide (better) The tricky bit about Assisted Suicide is proving it was Assisted Suicide and not Murder since the person who may have consented is dead. So it tricky to handle legally. If you have a Living Will, for those situations where you are in a Comma, on life support, and cant make the necessary decisions, it will dictate the course of action you want others to take with your life. Either pulling the Plug (killing you, assisted suicide), leaving you on life support for X amount of time, or some other option you may have chosen. *reads below* Yeah and Assisted Suicide is usually intended to end suffering, to be a compassionate option. similar to a situation where if you hit a deer on the side of the road, its half dead, suffering, flailing in pain. Assume it has given you consent to end its life (it cant talk but assume), you have option to shoot it ending its suffering quickly, or leave it there to suffer for however long it will take to die, (the option the dear doesnt want). #honorablesniper

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    • Well... The assisted suicide was willing. The murdered person wasn't.

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    • Assisted suicide is consented, right? Is that not the difference then?

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    • Edited by RIP delta: 3/4/2013 11:23:55 AM
      Malice would be the differentiator if Assisted Suicide is illegal Also being asked by someone for your help in killing them is generally a sign you weren't planning on it prior. I really can't see why, if it is the decision of the affected individual, it should be illegal though. Its a mercy, and ultimately does anyone have the right to deny you your own mortality?

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    • Euthanasia is the ending of a life where the life is guaranteed to end. It is ending someone's suffering. It seems to me a greater crime to allow such suffering, than to end it.

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    • Pretty sure there are other places in the world (some of the States, more specifically) where doctor-assisted suicide (euthanasia) is legal. I'm just going to say that it's all/mostly semantics. It's ambiguous things that are described by more ambiguous things. The way I see it (a little bit, just going off the cuff right now), sure, if you've assisted someone in committing suicide, you've essentially killed them. But (to me, morally) the connotation of "killing", in this instance, is completely different from "murdering" someone. But if I were on life support or some sort of state where there's no chance of recovery, I'd want my life to be over. Personally. And I'd do it for someone else, I'd like to think. Because I believe that it's a good cause, and I think I could live with knowing that that's what they wanted (if it were the case). So I say there's a significant different.

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