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11/12/2025 8:32:26 PM
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[quote]We need to get high scores in this call to arms event but it’s well know there are too many cheaters.
I guess Bungie wants to reward these players by making such an event where you need the highest scores within the community?[/quote]
There’s a single emblem tied to getting a top 1% score in any of the activities. And the event has a score lock at the end for anyone to try and beat the 1% scores without them changing.
And no, there’s no problem with people cheating for top 1% scores.
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The points aren't being awarded correctly for some player. You can get top ten but not receive the right points.
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[quote]The points aren't being awarded correctly for some player. You can get top ten but not receive the right points.[/quote] That’s for the pvp mode only. Score works properly everywhere else.
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70% of day 1 raids was full of cheaters. Bungie banned quite a few. So for anyone to think this is not going to be exploited/cheated is very blinkered.
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Edited by Bore: 11/12/2025 10:52:17 PM[quote]70% of day 1 raids was full of cheaters. Bungie banned quite a few. So for anyone to think this is not going to be exploited/cheated is very blinkered.[/quote] I don’t think you know how portal scoring or the event works lmao. [quote]70% of teams who completed cheated. Only one person per team was cheating and people were cheating for dozen of teams. The overall number of people who completed was a fraction of a fraction of a percent of people who play the game. The in game threshold for 1% for salt mines right now is like 2.7 million which doesn’t require cheating, or is it even close to the highest scores you can get. No form of cheating would make it easier to get score since it’s just time bonus, objective completion and special enemy killed to get a high score.[/quote]
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I don't think you know how cheating works lol. You think people can't edit portal scores?
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[quote]I don't think you know how cheating works lol. You think people can't edit portal scores?[/quote] Show me someone editing their portal score then.
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I'm not saying its happening. I'm saying cheaters exist. You put a leader board in a game i guarantee you the top ones have cheated to get there 95% of the time. 1 person on those teams cheated which invalidates the other 5. Its the way of the world people always want the unattainable.
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[quote]I'm not saying its happening. I'm saying cheaters exist. You put a leader board in a game i guarantee you the top ones have cheated to get there 95% of the time. 1 person on those teams cheated which invalidates the other 5. Its the way of the world people always want the unattainable.[/quote] [quote]The in game threshold for 1% for salt mines right now is like 2.7 million which doesn’t require cheating, or is it even close to the highest scores you can get. No form of cheating would make it easier to get score since it’s just time bonus, objective completion and special enemy killed to get a high score.[/quote] Not only that, but at the end of the event, scores lock and everyone has a chance to get up to the threshold set. Score have a literal limit to how high they can go, so you genuinely will not be impacted by anyone cheating.
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Maybe not. Your right there is a max obtainable score. With that said, if more people reach the absolute max score available due to cheating than those who do not, the the post will infact move higher than it would without cheating. So it's possible it could mess with some people on the fringe.
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The score thresholds pause for the last 72 hours allowing anyone to reach them without further increasing the threshold or pushing anyone out.
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Agreed. And what if cheaters don't wait till the last 72 hrs to play?
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Edited by Bore: 11/13/2025 12:00:14 AM[quote]Agreed. And what if cheaters don't wait till the last 72 hrs to play?[/quote] Again, there’s a literal cap to your points possible in any activity. Anyone -blam!- can get to 1% will be getting to 1%. Anyone who can’t will miss out in an emblem. :( Blaming the nonexistent cheating problem for being unable to get top 1% is a form of cope.
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What im saying, is that top 1% and max score are different things. Top 1% means you scare as high as the 1% highest scoring players. If the top 1% happen to have cheated to obtain the max score possible, then it will, in fact, saturate the leaderboard. Im not saing it is going to ruin it for everyone, I really don't believe that to be the case. I'm pointing out that yes, cheaters can, and probably will raise the threshold for top 1% to some degree. I just disagree with you saying cheaters will have no effect on the top 1% threshold.
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[quote]What im saying, is that top 1% and max score are different things. Top 1% means you scare as high as the 1% highest scoring players. If the top 1% happen to have cheated to obtain the max score possible, then it will, in fact, saturate the leaderboard. Im not saing it is going to ruin it for everyone, I really don't believe that to be the case. I'm pointing out that yes, cheaters can, and probably will raise the threshold for top 1% to some degree. I just disagree with you saying cheaters will have no effect on the top 1% threshold.[/quote] The effect is so minimal that paired with the threshold pushing will have no effect overall. Anyone who is capable of getting a top 1% score without cheaters will have one regardless of any that do chest to get a better score. The OP complaining about cheaters being why they don’t have top 1% is nonsense.
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Maybe with him specifically. But again, cheaters will have an effect on the threshold. And just because it may not be the reason OP doesn't get 1%, you can rest assured that some poor guy will miss it by a point because a cheater saturated the board. It's absolutely possible and probable that that will happen to someone. Again, simply saying that your wrong in suggesting cheaters will not have an adverse reaction on any legit players.
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[quote]Maybe with him specifically. But again, cheaters will have an effect on the threshold. And just because it may not be the reason OP doesn't get 1%, you can rest assured that some poor guy will miss it by a point because a cheater saturated the board. It's absolutely possible and probable that that will happen to someone. Again, simply saying that your wrong in suggesting cheaters will not have an adverse reaction on any legit players.[/quote] Again, anyone who is capable of getting a 1% score will with threshold pausing and the nature of how these points work. The extent small 0.0001% of people cheating will have no impact.
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Edited by Rockjaw: 11/13/2025 12:22:45 AMYour numbers are weird. But I agree it will be a small fraction of people who miss out due to cheaters. But, based on how numbers work, people will be burned due to cheaters. 0.000001% doesn't make sense because we are not talking about the total population. We are talking about a select 1% of players who could actually score that high. Take that 1% of legit players, and sprinkle in some cheaters, and those odds swing a bit. So, that guy who was sitting on the edge, will get rolled out if a cheater scores even .00001% higher than he. See what I'm saying? It will effect some people. *affect*
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Edited by Bore: 11/13/2025 12:26:40 AM[quote]Your numbers are weird. But I agree it will be a small fraction of people who miss out due to cheaters. But, based on how numbers work, people will be burned due to cheaters. 0.000001% doesn't make sense because we are not talking about the total population. We are talking about a select 1% of players who could actually score that high. Take that 1% of legit players, and sprinkle in some cheaters, and those odds swing a bit. So, that guy who was sitting on the edge, will get rolled out if a cheater scores even .00001% higher than he. See what I'm saying? It will effect some people.[/quote] Any impact it would have is offset by the score freeze. That guy sitting on the edge will be able to run it again after the freeze without worry. Get close to the highest possible score and you’ll be fine. You don’t actually need 1% for anything other than the emblem. The number of cheaters for the raid race which every likes to cite was about 100 people or maybe even less since it was usually one per team and multiple clears per cheater. The actual number of cheaters in this game gets dramatically overstated by the people on here. Any claims that cheaters are somehow impacting this event would need actual proof.
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Are they going to lower the score required to be in the top 1% in the last 72 hours?
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Oh ok I understand what you're saying.
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>no problem with people cheating. yeah, ok...
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[quote]>no problem with people cheating. yeah, ok...[/quote] Show any sort of proof.
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you don't believe there's cheaters... in pvp? are you for real?
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Edited by Bore: 11/12/2025 8:49:57 PM[quote]you don't believe there's cheaters... in pvp? are you for real?[/quote] Did I say PvP or was I talking about the event? The OP talking about the event, who also plays on console, is not mentioning PvP cheaters.
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"We need to get high scores in this call to arms event but it’s well know there are too many cheaters" wasnt specified.
