Pathfinder is poorly executed, forcing players to play game modes they dislike/ actively hate will only make them play another game. The fix is easy, a separate pathfinder for each ritual activity.

Agreed. Pathfinder sucks, and really has ruined my weekly grind routine. Sometimes I don’t feel like playing Gambit, or Strikes. Now I’m forced to do stupid things I don’t want to do. Like kill enemies blinded by arc in Gambit??? That’s a bounty I’d either skip or discard to get a different one. But NOPE, now I can’t progress my Pathfinder until I do that or some other stupid challenge I don’t want to do. It sucks. At least let us RE-ROLL the nodes if we want! I’ll pay the glimmer, just let me change the freaking nodes!

Agreed. If I only want to play crucible then let me. It's also not in an easy place to find. Directions to it are all the way on the bottom like fine print in a contract. Lol

Frankly I am a little surprised both systems weren't maintained. Pathfinder is alright I guess but I don't see much of a point of removing the weekly bounties

I've never understood their flawed logic that "if we keep breaking things the players will be happy". Since I've been gaming I have never seen any developer but this one constantly changes how things work in a game to only please themselves. A decade and they have never built a foundation for this game to get it to actually move forward. Change is welcomed if what they are changing actually works to improve things for the game/player base, but 90% of the time it's change to work for what works for them and that's just dumb development. Yes "it's their game" but they really aren't good at managing it.

I also liked the old system. I actually like the OLD old system in the early years of D1 in the sense that it had a LOT of variety, in particular the destination bounties used to make you think about "where can I find a bunch of <enemy type>?" or "Where did I see those?" and made you explore and know the world a bit. I also like "shopping" for bounties "that interest me". Also, those "general purpose" bounties were a good source of XP, and now I have to work the destination bounties more, which takes time away from other non-destination activities (one of the reasons I quit Gambit was I had to sacrifice it to give me enough time for seasonal activities... and I don't have skills and cannot stomach it anymore - easy decision). But regarding the second point by the OP, if Bungie's intent is to make us play both PVE AND PVP, then I get it and simply won't attempt to finish Pathfinder. BUT if that isn't the intent, I'm going to be disappointed with the designers (and Bungie in general): as a player that NEVER did Crucible and stopped Gambit quite a while ago (I don't have the skill, and no longer have the stomach or time for it), I've discovered that I cannot complete this week's pathfinder. I have only 1 PVE-only node on the 2nd tier with 1 connection on tier 3 which is blocked by two PVE nodes, and only 1 node on tier 4 with a sole connection on tier 3 blocked by 2 PVP on tier 2, with both paths laterally blocked by PVP nodes straight through between them. If the intent really was to be able to complete Pathfinder "your way", then it failed immediately. If not, I'll live without it. Regardless, I'll do the nodes for XP and it looks like I'll just have to live with more Seasonal Challenges left incomplete.

I mean . Both have bad rewards lol so its par for the course

Bro, its over with. This is the end state of D2. It will not change, it will not progress. They are simply milking all the left over idiots that still log for everything they can get. Once i get through raid one time, game is uninstalled after 12000 hours. I will NEVER give these people another dime and if any of them go somewhere else, that company will receive ZERO. These people need to be blacklisted for what they have done to the game and their player base. Unacceptable on every single aspect.

I kinda like it

Same here, really miss collecting those bounties before running activities, why not have both systems?

You kids say this exact same copy-cut post every single time Bungie changes anything. Do you ever get tired of blindly hating on the game?

Pathfinder is amazing, and I love it. I no longer have to hunt down so many bounties. And boy do the seasonal challenges offer a lot of Dust!

Does anyone believe that they replaced the Bounties with the Pathfinder just to give us something better? No! The only reason they eliminated the Bounties was to get rid of one of the main sources of Bright Dust, especially for those of us who do not buy the Season Pass. I am talking about the repeatable bounties purchasable for 3000 Glimmers that rewarded us with Bright Dust upon completion. Why do you think they got rid of that? It seems very obvious to me....

I think the Final Shape is the best expansion Destiny has ever gotten. However, putting PVE, PVP, and Gambit into a single pathfinder page is -blam!-. If they make two pathfinder pages each for PVE and PVP, it would be much better. Btw Gambit does not need a pathfinder. save your resources.

Played a game of Gambit this morning. One player on the team had 3 motes, one player had 0 motes. They just left them lying around, while making lots of kills. Had to run like hel to pick em up. They just ignore the objective and do the quest only. I assume in Crucible you get similar issues. It hurts the serious players.