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10/30/2022 6:50:30 PM
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Invis is still the biggest problem in pvp

The numbers prove it. Clearly invis is broken

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  • JUST DON'T nerf it in PVE, i already have to combo my invis with melee+dodge to survive in gm. just make invis hunters texture more purple particles so pvp guys can see better.

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  • Invis is an interesting thing. It’s not really too strong. Makes a loud noise when activated and you can still see a glowing purple outline. It’s hard not to notice when a hunter goes invis and it’s easy to counter it. However that’s only really applicable to more skilled and aware players. For lesser skilled players who aren’t worried about awareness or looking out for a purple glow running around, I can imagine invis being really annoying. So it’s really a case of players needing to simply improve and adapt to invis, instead of asking for a nerf. The fact that it’s used to much is likely because of how easy it is to trick less skilled players with it. If more players get better at the game, less players will use invis.

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  • Honestly it’s not the visual effect. It’s the radar. You can run a Jemini Jester Invis hunter and essentially be undetectable by the enemy for 80% of the match

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    • Edited by The naked tiger-man: 11/3/2022 7:19:35 PM
      It's been around since d2 began pretty much unchainged but whith all the healing dmg resists sheild and oversheilds its now the only hunter tool that can counter other classes hunters have always had the highest player count so that hasn't changed its not like ppl are switching to hunter an ivise hasn't really changed all that's changed is that the other classes have gotten stronger with more mobility healing an sheilds than the simple neutral game benefits of the other hunter subclasses can't counter invis is the only unique tool we have to work with that how I see it anyway as soon as invise is nerfed ppl will complain about titans 1 punching an nading the he'll out of you or oversheilding constantly shifting nearly all ttks or moving faster than every class despite being framed as the slowest class or ppl will complain about warlocks an there busted 1 shot teleporting 360 degree melee or there arc souls shifting nearly all ttks in there favor or warlocks solar mobility or healing rifts or stasis freezing them non stop with melees grenades and rifts or slowing with constant ice turrets but yeah invis the 5 year old ability that hasn't changed in the entire time its been here is broken like come on an tbh I don't like invis either its not fun to play its the only thing that class can do that's it just invis nothing else so boring but it's all we have to compete besides just jumping an with A.E now in game that has been severely nerfed

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      • Invis has been an issue for a long time, it gives to much of an advantage to the user! Then bungie goes and gives them exotics to make them even more potent, it’ll stay broke because Hunters are the most used class in the game!

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        • I thought the SBMM, quitter penalties in control, and the nerfs to movement abilities were a bigger problem than void invisible hunters?

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        • Pvp players are the biggest problem in pvp You all want to win and cry about everything if you don’t

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          • Storm nade duration and chasing mechanic is a much bigger one.

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            • Pro-tip…invis doesn’t kill you, so the problem might be elsewhere.

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              • The biggest problem with PvP is there is no incentive to win matches (trials aside). This, combined with bounties, creates an environment where any game objective is not a priority.

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                Agreed 👍

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              • Edited by MasterProtector: 11/2/2022 1:47:58 AM
                Invis by itself really isn’t strong, even it’s core aspect to be radar free was taken away, and as far as actually seeing it, it’s not too hard to spot, you mean gyrefalcons, and honestly idc if they nerf it either, I’ll still use it in pve. First time in awhile I switched off dragons shadow, every class has annoying abilities or exotics, I’m hate roaming storm grenades, but I’ll adapt like I always do. When it’s capture zone trials, all the bubble titans with heart of inmost light come out, I slap on witherhoard and watch their bubbles/barricades crumble. Stag rift arc soul warlocks with ntte is still a dominant combo, I mean there are honestly a large combination of builds for every class, most of which are just slept on.

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                • Invis is annoying sure and could use some tweaks but it is nowhere near the level of oppressiveness that storm grenade spam and linears are at right now

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                • No it's not.

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                • Skill issue

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                  • Their nothing wrong with invis it's the way players play with void hunter and it usage been getting lower over the months because of other subclasses like Arc the only reason players went back to up in usage in void was because of a certain exotic that I'm sure is going to get nerfed with "damage towards Guardians" Hunter role in pvp is to flank and the void subclass accomplish that perfectly I know players are irritated but you do realize that majority of them only use special weapons like shotgun, fusion, forerunner or a sidearm now because any other weapon is to risky That's the the main problem with some of you pvp players you want to nerf what you find annoying thinking it is broken when it's not due to a overpopulated class your anger is directed at the wrong thing when it's the tools they used to effectively kill you that's annoying you getting 1tap by arbalest with Gyrfalcon is a prime example

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                    • “The numbers” Gives no evidence no context ITz PRov3N!!!

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                      • Now I don't want to straight up call invisible broken. However, Nightstalker got nerfed. Has one of the worst supers and worst melee registration yet is the most used class. Omni was also nerfed but then replaced with gyrfalcons (Bungie logic). With linear meta khapri sting is rising in usage. No one can deny hunters have some incredible pvp exotics which is magnified even more in game modes like trials. Also according to higher KD players hunter is the most forgiving of the 3 classes. So with deadly exotics, meta synergy, and ease of use I can't understand the statistics are the way they are. Note: do I find overshields gimmicky too? Yes I do. Both invis and overshields are power ups in other games. Though both invis and overshields are gimmicky I still give invisible a slight edge because of it's mobility and radar manipulation and ease of use. Whether we agree or disagree the stats say invis hunters are the most used and I can guarantee that's it's not because of the class super.

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                      • Ive been seeing an overwelming amount of invis hunters with the new chest piece and linears/side arm. Is that the new streamer loadout because it seems like the lemmings were quick to follow.

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                      • Look at all the hunters who think invis isn't a problem but wanted Icarus dash and Celestial fire nerfed. I can't wait until Bungie nerfs invis, and its coming. I mean Icarus dash was nerfed because warlocks were surviving more often, you don't think Bungie is going to leave invis untouched? I can't wait.

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                        • Invis and Void Barricades are equally as problematic imo. They're too good compared to Warlock Class Abilities.

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                        • Only to garbage players. High skill players have better situational map awareness and rarely fall prey to invis. But thanks for sharing buddy…. You’re a special buddy!!!

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                          • invis -blam!- sucks.. your not actually invisible and your not off the radar either its literally used just for buffs i think the problem with that new exotic is that it can buff all weapon damage they should focus it to special weapons only and maybe some primary's like bows people running around with pistols is just cringe also anyone notice the connection is dog -blam!- all of a sudden my bow isnt hitting ever all of a sudden

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                            • Fix your eyesight

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                            • I don't know about the biggest problem, but it is annoying

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                            • When you Casual Mode is sweatier than your so called competitive mode you have a bigger problem on your hands than one subclass.

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