The truth is it’s simply too late. A lot of people, myself included are just over and done with D2 now, unfortunately we just don’t care now.

I try to look through these forums for tangible info or funny satire but it seems that is all lost. Now it seems 90% of the posts or comments are people that do not play Destiny but come to the forums just to hate.

But the majority of the changes are things that were in D1 lol

So it’s only okay to complain when YOU want to complain. Got it.

I also love how this game, which is laughably easy now in PVE, just got even easier with the time limit removed from nightfalls. The last thing that actually felt challanging has been watered down.

Are you a D1 day one player? If so, you must realize it's deja Vu all over again! Except this time the revelation won't be ready by September.

I love the game, No Nerf Man... without question. But you speak of changes. Where? I read promises. No changes. They PROPOSE changes. I've lost confidence in Bungie. I'm not angry or pissy about it... just too damned tired of the "We hear ya and we're on it" rhetoric. Did you ever play Never Winter Nights back in the early 2000? Massive game. Tons of stuff. Great until Blizzard botched it. Well, I wrote script. Dude... it ain't rocket surgery and it don't take no year-and-a-half to implement change. I know you know that and I appreciate your defense of Bungie. We had a problem one day with our loot chests. Massive complaints. It was patched as soon as the glitch was figured out... about two days. Have you ever sat thru the credits for the game? These developers aren't three guys in a garage with a Commodore 64 trying to write early binary code. If a developer is even slightly competent, much of the scripting is "canned" and easily altered. Shaders are a prime example. Easy to do because the basic scripting is there. My only complaint is vault size. Each guardian has five armor slots. Each planet has its own set of armor. Then the specialty armor from Tess (micropurchases don't bother me). Then the dawning... even without weps, vault space was gone a month ago if you like collecting what Bungie has sold us. And trolls... I bought every item dropped when I bought the game. Nothing is free. So vault space. They PROMISE 50 additional spaces soon. Why the phuck soon? There's no reasonable answer. The scripting is there. The ability to take one or two of the hundreds of folks on the game credits could do this. Surprise the community. Give us instant..."Hey, we messed up... here's 200 additional vault spaces til we figure out the storage issue" gratification. Fifty spaces is nothing. And if storage space is an issue, Bungie needs to get out of the business of having loot. Simply put, they have no clue and therefore shouldn't be offering things that you can't keep. I know I am not the only collector, but I can only truly collect gear for one guardian, that is if I leave space for all the ships, sparrows, shaders and mods I've paid for. I have been deleting things I know will end up as micropurchases in the future. That's a load of garbage. I defended Bungie during the whining about the mistakes in D1. I can't here. Too many of the same mistakes. Only two reasons cone to mind; first, they just don't care. It wouldn't be the first time a company shat on its consumer base. Or two, they still don't get it. Either way, shame on the management. This is a beautiful game. A buddy of mine and I will just grab sparrows and explore, not shooting a wep for what feels like hours. We just ride around, soaking in the art. But that's not the only reason i play. I just expected better, my friend. Peace.

Honestly, there are a lot of positive changes coming, but those changes will likely come too late. That's why people keep pandering on about how it should have already been in the game. Because it should have been... Bungie is promising to bring their new game up to an old standard of an old game that they themselves set. Most of the real game changing updates won't come until very late this year or later. That seems to be an incredibly large gap in time, and it feels like their priorities for what changes come first aren't in the right place. We've already been in this position, and we're going through the same thing as in D1... It may be best for people to just stop playing and come back when they've actually fixed... no... not just fixed, but built upon. Because fixing it will just make it D1, and for it to be a true sequel it needs to improve and build upon the successes of the previous game. Not only that, but they failed to mention the most fundamental issue the game has that needs to be addressed... Loot. We are still getting the same guns and armor every day, all with static perks. Luke Smith said a long time ago they were looking into a way to make our 2nd and 10th Better Devils interesting. Well even with Masterworks, all my Better Devils are still the same. We need reasons to investigate our gear, we need more customize-able options. We need some form of RNG that drops with EVERY piece of gear, whether that be a random perk mod or something else. We need a reason to get excited for new things. All we do is get the same gear out of everything, we dismantle everything without a thought because nothing is interesting. People can hate on random weapon rolls all they want, but they made D1 that much more interesting, and every piece of gear had a reason to be looked at. I understand this community complains a lot, and even when things are changing for the better we still complain. But Bungie shouldn't be praised for doing what they should have done in the first place. I'm not going to pat them on the back for creating problems they already fixed in D1, only for them to need to fix it again just to get back to square one. It's an ongoing theme with Destiny, and I don't feel like waiting another 2 years just to have a game on par with it's predecessor.

IKR? They're bringing back everything people wanted brought back from Destiny 1, and then some, not to mention fixing Eververse, adding new stuff like Masterwork Armor & Exotics, and overhauling the mod system. I call that a win. But this forum... Bungie is giving people exactly what they wanted what they've been asking for since launch (6v6, better endgame content, unique perks for Raid gear, ships, ghosts, and sparrows earnable in-game and not just through Eververse, Strike Scoring), and they say they're quitting the game anyway? Ingrates.

Yeah this community sucks