[b]Bungie, in D2 please bring back...[/b] Everything that was in D1 because anything new is not welcome around these here parts... Also, anything old or "re-skinned" is not welcome around these here parts either. In fact please somehow make everything exactly the same and familiar but new and exciting without straying too far away from what's familiar, but not too different either. Actually, scratch that. Please nerf stuff before we use it, but make sure everything is balanced before we use it, but not too balanced otherwise everyone will use the same weapons, which will mean you'll have to nerf them, but please FFS, stop nerfing stuff. God... I hate D2, worst game ever. [b]Good Lord Edit:[/b] Ok. So it's come to my attention that reading comprehension has been abandoned. So for everyone taking this post seriously, I'm gonna evoke Captain Obvious here and add #Satire [b]*Sigh*[/b]

At least all melee ranges are the same... No more T-rex Titan or No-Throwing-Knife Hunter 😁

2 ways to balance something... Bring underpowered things up to the level of everything else. Or remove the pivot point from the out of balance system and just put everything on the ground. For example... 2 brothers in school and one gets great grades and the other is failing. Do parents and teachers help the failing kid improve his grades? Or do they take books away from the smart one until grades balance? Both achieve balance. Improving something is far harder than subtracting from the better one.

Yeah the minigun is gonna be first on the chopping block for d2

I personally don't think Destiny was intended to be balanced. It was intended to be fun. Balance became a misused/misunderstood word. Then came "OP", code for game over. Fix some unintended designs that slipped through testing? Yes, of course. But that isn't what happened. Feels sad man.

Thanks PvP cry babies for ruining the game...

IMO if one seeks "balance", jump on a tightrope. One will never find "balance" in a pvp type game. Players will complain about everything, but never accept being outplayed.

IMO I don't believe Destiny was ever really meant to be balanced when it was being created. I believe it was built with more of PvE in mind. Hits to why Bungie stated PvP was meant to be a causal event. It wasn't until gamers wanted more out of PvP that everything changed in this game. And thanks to streamers they helped that a long. Personally I feel PvP should of stayed as a causal event and Trials shouldn't have ever been added. But that's not what happened and now it plays its role when it comes to adjustments in this game. Normal PvP was being treated like Trials that to me is an overly competitive event that should of been separated from the rest of the game. But the biggest issue this game has and this isn't even a joke. The sandbox that literally nerfed everything in this game and refuse to look for other options. You know... Like actually playing your own game. Adjusting weapons to compete with one another. Taking small steps to see how things actually play out instead of going to the extreme. Not just relying on a chart that says what's use the most. Ask for advice from other companies that have little more experience in a game like this. Not nerfing hunter because a certain person Rage Quit a game. John "cough... Edit: Lying to your fanbase saying you nerfed shotguns and later admitting that you did lie about nurfing shotguns, and end up making a false chart. John "cough... All of this plays it's role besides it's fanbase. So if the devs are not willing to have an open mind and refuse to use other options which they have. How can anyone really expect any "balance" in a game like this?

Ditto that! D2 is bringing in actual gun play. Pretty hyped for that tbh, I might have a shit ass K/D, but at least its not from ability spamming.

There was only two justifiable nerfs in this game. The first Vex Mythoclast/Thorn nerfs (thorn actually needs a slight buff).

Destiny will never be "balanced". And that's okay. There's too many variables to try and make things balanced. If you want balance go play simpler games like CoD and BF and Overwatch. They can achieve a "balance" much easier because they have less to balance. Destiny was fine when it was released. Then ToO came out and all the basement dwellers with zero self esteem started to cry because they suck at the game and can't adapt. Cries for less or no heavy and special ammo started popping up everywhere. Limited weapons; No supers; Nerf this and that. Well, Bungie unfortunately listened to the pants wetters and we ended up getting all of the exotics nerfed to crap. Certain weapon perks, weapon re rolling, grenades, abilities and supers were also nerfed to crap. Anyone that's ever used the term 'meta", calls certain things OP or ever cried for a nerf is just a horrible player that can't adapt. What little self esteem they may have is based on their prowess in a video game ffs...and that's just pathetic. The rest of us will continue to adapt to these changes and kicking the cry babies' a$$e$.