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7/2/2017 9:38:26 AM
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Here's what I don't understand about D2...

Everyone was complaining because it looks "too similar" to the first game. Now Bungie is revealing lots of info about different changes, and now the community is griping because it's too different! Make up your -blam!-ing minds!
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  • Did you ever think maybe it's different people??? Like maybe people have different opinions and express them at different times??? Omg no way.

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    • Fans: "We're sick of grinding for random weapon perks that may not even have what we need on them" Bungie: Ok we fixed the perks then Fans: "Waaaaaaah where's my random perks?" Fans: "The grimoire sucks we want lore in game!" Bungie: "Ok no more grimoire" Fans: "Waaaaah we want grimoire!" Fans: "We're tired of big fire teams shredding us in the crucible!" Bungie: "ok here the fireteams aren't as big" Fans: "Waaaaah where are our big fireteams?" Seriously I hate this place

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    • STFU

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    • "Looks too similar" because it was made using the same engine that was used to make it on last gen consoles. All the changes they've made have been quite literal shit

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      • Edited by OhtheHugeManity5: 7/5/2017 12:11:01 AM
        The problem that people have is that they didn't make changes so much as removals. Less perks, weapon perk variety removed, PvP greatly lessened. There's some cool new stuff too, like lost sectors and dialogue options, but the core foundations of the gameplay have been cut down. That's what people have a problem with. A lot of it seems to be done for better PvP balance, but with increased funding people would probably just prefer they work harder on weapon balancing rather than giving themselves less to balance. If I'm entirely honest I think that many balancing complaints are just people venting their anger at a defeat anyway and they don't actually mind the balancing. The idea is that it's one step forward, two steps backward.

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        • If D2 would be D1 PLUS new things i would be happy. But so far D2 is D1 MINUS a lot of things. Only 4 vs 4 pvp No weapon perks variety Less class perks No grimoire ...

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          • [quote]Everyone was complaining because it looks "too similar" to the first game. Now Bungie is revealing lots of info about different changes, and now the community is griping because it's too different! Make up your -blam!-ing minds![/quote] I see more people "sick of D2 Hate" than actual criticisms- I mean hate.

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          • [quote]Everyone was complaining because it looks "too similar" to the first game. Now Bungie is revealing lots of info about different changes, and now the community is griping because it's too different! Make up your -blam!-ing minds![/quote] I just made a similar comment in another topic. I'll take the same look with better and balanced game play over a different look with the garbage that we have now.

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          • [b]Bungie, in D2 please bring back...[/b] Everything that was in D1 because anything new is not welcome around these here parts... Also, anything old or "re-skinned" is not welcome around these here parts either. In fact please somehow make everything exactly the same and familiar but new and exciting without straying too far away from what's familiar, but not too different either. Actually, scratch that. Please nerf stuff before we use it, but make sure everything is balanced before we use it, but not too balanced otherwise everyone will use the same weapons, which will mean you'll have to nerf them, but please FFS, stop nerfing stuff. God... I hate D2, worst game ever.

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            • What I don't understand are posts like this, that condense everyone's differing viewpoints into one, and the poster is shocked that there are contradictions.

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              • I wouldn't say "everyone".

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              • .....to be honest, you know these guys are going to sell you your old stuff back.......it'll happen....you know it....

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              • You're so misinformed, I don't know if I should laugh, or cry.

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                • You forgot the # satire

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                • We complain because we're unhappy, and we're unhappy because we complain.

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                • Looks as the graphics look the same. It doesn't look better. But the changes they are making no one asked for. No one asked them to take away the random perks. We just asked them to adjust their garbage RNG system. So I don't do three things turn them all in a get back to back to back the same frickin' weapon or ghost.

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                • You're absolutely right, OP, there's no possible way that those complaints could be coming from [i]separate[/i] groups of players.

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                  • The people that want change leave because there is nothing to complain about, and the people who don't want change come to complain

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                  • Edited by BERSEKAEL: 7/3/2017 6:00:27 PM
                    we complaim because we still wish destiny was what was promissed on E3... you know, competitive, open world, ingame social tools, etc is sad how an amazing project gets mutilated... like 4vs4, down from 6vs6, no dedicated servers, 30fps, an app/website to find people to play on a console, etc

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                    • Edited by TheArtist: 7/2/2017 5:07:40 PM
                      Not all changes are equal. 1. There are inconsequential changes. 2. There are inconvenience changes. 3. There are game-changing changes. 4. There are game-breaking changes. Up until last week, in my view, all the changes proposed to the game were either the first two kinds of changes...and the few that were the third type were poised to make the game better. Which is why I kept saying , "Calm down and wait for the beta." But eliminating RNG from the loot system as was announced last week is potentially very NEGATIVE change of the third type, and potentially a game-breaking change of the fourth. To compound the problem, Smith gave NO ANSWERS to how Bungie intends to handle the very obvious ways that this will alter the pve side of the game, nor how they intend to handle the replayability problems this cretes in PVE. In fact he hinted that all this may not even be sorted out by launch. Sorry, but that is [i]unacceptable[/i]. We are looking at a game that is potentially deviating from being a genuine sequel to being a completely different TYPE of game and being launched with a broken gear system and loot system. Again..... Only to have Smith vomit this up last week then clam up about the thing we need to know about this. He either should have kept quiet about it, or been willing to discuss it fully. But he did neither and that's a huge problem.

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                      • Well they are danged if the don't and danged if they do. Am I right or am I right? [spoiler]I am right.[/spoiler]

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                      • Lol, you must be new here...

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                      • Nothing different from any community of any single game

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                        • If only Bungie would learn never to say anything about anything. Only complete silence can't be misunderstood.

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                          • Guess qe better get used to using sticks to fight. Because thats the only way to be different

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                          • Kids these days.. complaining so hard about a game they haven't even gotten to play yet

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