I was with you up until you labelled PvP'ers as "Cry babies". It's not our fault you can't hack it in the Crucible (and evidently the raid lol... why are people still stuck on normal mode?) To be perfectly blunt (and more civil) Bungie's insistence on maintaining perfect symmetry between PvE and PvP is completely asinine. I understand their reasons why, but in practice it's just not practical nor fun. Take the Thorn changes for example - aside from totally missing the mark yet again, they pretty much destroyed the gun for both modes and it's not even a year 2 weapon. The changes to aggressive ballistics have also negatively impacted many weapons harshly (most notably the Necrochasm and Vex Mythoclast). Speaking of the Vex, what the hell Bungie? Thanks for furthering ruining an already troubled weapon. But I digress, these changes they keep making are extremely annoying and rather than incentivise players to try new options, they simply clamp down on what's (overly) popular. Removing HCR from MIDA was really, really lame and took away a huge part of it's PvE utility. Now it's purely a speed weapon rather than a soloist's dream gun. The Heavy & Special ammo changes are also frustrating. Rocket Launchers are already underused and machine guns were just fine. Oh and the balance changes? Holy overreaction batman. Just like Hammers had their luster stolen, now Stormtrance is a pitiful shadow of its former self in PvE. I understand why they hit it, it really was obscene getting killed by someone in PvP, respawning, and then getting killed [i]again by the same damn super.[/i] They could have simply reduced it's total maximum duration or made the energy change only affect PvP but nope, gotta keep everything the same. It was pretty cool being able to just light up an entire room with electricity and generate a tonne of orbs for the team (just like it was amazing throwing hammers and exploding everything, or generating near-infinite orbs with the bow) but well, we all know how Bungie feels about people having fun in their game by now don't we.