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Edited by m0nk0fwar:
2/14/2016 3:12:22 PM
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Thorn, oh, Thorn...
While it is not as broken as it was in Year 1, it's pretty close now. The main problem is that the DoT allows people to get three bodyshots, disengage and still get the kill. For a hand cannon, which is a precision weapon, this really breaks the class by allowing Thorn users to have similar times to kill as the rest of the class without any skill. In addition to this, Thorn has more range than pretty much any other hand cannon when using the proper perks. Combining this with the fact that it has the fastest rate of fire of hand cannons gives it an obnoxious time to kill. It's obvious that Thorn needs another rebalance.
So, what should be done? Simple. Replace Send It with Speed Reload. This takes away its massive range advantage and brings into line with the rest of the hand cannons. Also, the burn damage should be reduced to 2 damage per tick in PvP. This makes the three shot bodyshot kill less likely.
Edit: one good suggestion that I saw a few times was to only have the DoT apply on precision hits, making them actually matter.
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You are complaining about a weapon that's year 1 and almost no one uses it. Still suffering from PTSD from a [i]video game [/i] I see.
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3 RepliesI can't remember the last time I lost a battle to a Thorn... Why nerf it when it is already underpowered for a hand canon? I fear TLW a whole lot more than the Thorn.
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Here's the thing, there's nothing wrong with Thorn as it is now. It's TTK is mediocre at best and it's not used much in PvP anymore. So my suggestion would be that they do absolutely nothing to Thorn. The numbers just don't support a nerf anymore.
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2 RepliesThey should make a year 2 thorn
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1 ReplyYou know what I hate? A coordinated team with good auto rifles in control. Asshats keep killing me in a hail of bullets when I charge straight at them. I think we should ban tactics, or nerf the hell out of them. Create an algorithm that detects battle logic and auto - teleport the offenders to random places around the map.
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1 ReplyReplace all weapons with didlos. Don't stop reading M8s. But there would be a thorn dildo and a last word dildo, all exotic dildos. Thorn Dildo does damage over time when you hit hard enough. The last Dildo, Has fast fire rate and has high impact, etc. But you would cry for a nerf, OMG DILDO HIT ME TOO HARD or OMG DILDO TOO FAST FOR ME.
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Mute button
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Lol love the thorn lmao
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It already has huge range w/o send it
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When a team of thorn users gun me down it makes me wanna bust a nut
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Yes it's a gun that kills.....good,that's y it's an exotic.stop trying to take the good guns in this game and making all of them the -blam!-ing same!
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Edited by zWBz_Derky: 2/18/2016 2:48:59 AMi got a good one for u stop nerfing guns for fu-cksake
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The gun is perfectly fine and balanced where it is, leave it alone, the nerf was enough.
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4 Repliesall solar classes burn you like hell and you complain of the 3 damage per tic for a couple of sexonds that the thorn inflicts?? just zip it already.
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4 RepliesThorn is good but users still couldn't deal with the mida. Best counter thorn I've found year one or two.
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The main problem is it can three shot as if it was a slow rate of fire type of hand cannon but it's actually a faster right of fire hand cannon. So maybe if rate of fire was changed itd finally be less op.
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4 RepliesY2 is comprised of such babies.
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5 RepliesWAAAAAAAAAHHHH! I NEED A BOTTLE I need a nerf! Shut the fahk up. Change your diaper and tampon,and learn to play. Shit thorn is a mere shadow of its former self and you crying. Tell mommy to bring you more pizza bagels down and stop annoying us with this bullshit
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15 RepliesThorn is one of the most unique guns in the game it will never per say be balanced because it's the only primary that leaves you burning but it takes some skill to land the 3 shots on someone with out getting gunned down i love my thorn and I'll never stop using it!
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2 RepliesEdited by Ve7n00m: 2/17/2016 3:00:50 PMInstead of all this bullcrap about nerfing Thorn again just put the Bounty back in rotation and get rid of Legacy Engrams!!!! That's a tough bounty to complete (not so much now) but just ask people who legitimitaly earned their Thorn. I'm talking before Void primaries existed. I got Thorn month 1 as a Hunter, took me freaking ages!!!!! Thorn's in a great place now, before it was underpowered, then Bungie made it over powered and now it's just right! In fact pre buff I always thought adding 2 bullets to it's 6 was a good buff, so I'm down with reducing Thorns mag to 8. Other than that leave it alone!
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6 RepliesAgain. Pull out your ghost...problem solved
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while I hate thorn, it isn't OP, its top tier loot. with all of the health regen perks and overshield perks, Im surprised people still have a problem with thorn. thorn honestly kept pulse rifles in check, but once it was left behind to year 1, pulse rifles seemed over powered since they had nothing to counter them, now that they're nerfed, thorn is making a comback.
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The DoT is just another skill being used by the players. I've loved using some sort of solar melds, dying, then later seeing "Postmortem" popping up on my screen.
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Delete it from the game.
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F no. It already been reduced from 7. It's a game learn and adapt. You got the skills shouldn't be a problem for you
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It had a damage of a different archetype, it's damage is the same as fate bringer, put the original damage of the thorn when it first came out, 67 head shot an 55 body shot, make the burn stack like it does now, an thus the thorn is fixed an still can take down people without having anyone complain. If anyone says it wouldn't kill anybody with that much damage. I beg to differ I've gotten plenty of kills with it when it first came out, I've played in year 2 trials with it and won my 1v1s with it. If anyone would take the thorn to trials or iron banner it deals 54-57 precision damage, so it wasn't over powered like it still is now. If Bungie can keep the burn stacking an have the gun deal damage the way it first came out, the gun won't be over powered anymore, an people could still get a thrill killing another with the burn or the damage.
