Low level gear. At the time when Hard Crota deemed "difficult". I was 31 with all maxed weapons but still kicked since the guy "doesn't trust me" I laughed and spit at him for his action. By that time barely anyone know how to do it except me and some few other members I been with. From now at times I purposely go with crap gear just to see how some teams could react to it. (Sadly no one cares since all raids are so old)