[b]EDIT: Still people responding even though this post has been dead for awhile... I guess people really want their voices heard bungie![/b] [b]EDIT: Can we get this highest rated so all the devs can see?[/b] [b]EDIT: Bungie!!! Please read this and the replies! Remember. This is what the [i]players want.[/i][/b] [b]EDIT: This is now a petition to let us upgrade old gear! "Sign" below. But please read and discuss as well![/b] So... Many are speculating about what the deal is when it comes to ascending old weapons and gear to higher levels when The Taken King arrives. Many people say that they should be able to ascend their old gear to these newer levels, while others think it would be better just to move on to new gear. DeeJ puts it like this: "A ten year relationship with the same weapon seems boring in our opinion." (Not his [i]exact[/i] words). This indicates that Bungie is very well considering making our old weapons obsolete compared to TTK weapons/gear. I understand were DeeJ is coming from. I really do. But I have to disagree. We all know that the weapons and gear from the new expansions adds something new and cool to the table. This is why Guardians swap out one of their old weapons for something else (Because using the same stuff over and over gets boring, like DeeJ said). But there is always something that you really enjoy using, and keeping by your side. Of course, you'll swap it out for something else depending on what the situation demands, but otherwise it is your favorite. Making those old favorite weapons obsolete... Just kind of sucks. When TTK comes out, all the gear and weapons from previous expansions and vanilla destiny will completely die out. Alright, now I'm getting into a touchy subject... "Day 1 Players". I believe that no matter when you buy the game, you should always be able to experience the game equally. But... I also think that day one players should be able to keep their old items. It just seems mean to take all those weapons viability away. I want newer players to look at a veterans old vanilla or TDB gear and say "Woah! What's that cool gear?" Their should always be a variety of gear and weapons for players to choose from. DeeJ is worried people won't continue to play Destiny if they only use the same weapons over and over... Listen up DeeJ. You won't have to worry about that if you guys add new and exciting options for players to choose from. The players will use the new stuff... But they also want to be able to show off their old stuff, and say " Yeah, this is what our gear was like before all the different expansions. [b]IN CONCLUSION:[/b] -I believe you should be able to ascend year 1 items to keep up with year 2 items -I believe as long as their is a wide variety of gear and weapons to choose from, and new challenges in missions and raids, people will continue to play destiny for a long time even if players keep some of their really old stuff (If our old stuff was "boring" we would dismantle it) -And please, for the love of God, let my Venation III still be viable in TTK. It is so sick... [b]EDIT: Thanks for all the replies! We are trending![/b] [b]EDIT: Found an awesome reply with a little more on the issue made by Aprovoked Mango[/b] [quote]Taking HoW as the example, we got lots of new weapons via trials, poe, queen etc, now some of them I have loved and they have become my new go to's whilst some ive disliked and stick to my old favs like supremacy. Now deej can call it boring keeping the same weapons but on the flipside how cool is it in say destiny 3 where someone sees you with the supremacy, a gun you have carried through everything since week 2. ttk looks to destroy our "legend" and take us to vanilla 2.0, they shouldnt introduce a system allowing us to use whatever the hell we like to then bottleneck us back into such a tiny selection. Thats one massive step backwards! sure mmos reset but they bring with them a freaking ton of content, ttk would need to replace vanilla + 2 dlcs to warrant that idea. Thats doubtfully not going to happen so destiny should stick with what its set out. Let us carve out story with the gear and weapons we use, the new stuff will be adopted, some of the old will filter out but one things for sure it makes eveything alot more interesting. if they want to end the reign of some weapons maybe introduce an ascension material that is limited in number say 2 per char and thats it, no more ever or until year 3. for example (normal/hard raid) that way you are extremely picky about what you take with you and what you leave behind. tl:dr: if ttk is vanilla 2.0 then bungie took a huge stepbackwards. Let us carry on carving out own story with our choice of weapons and gear, new stuff will be adopted, some old stuff eventually wiped out but dont bottleneck us back into such a tiny selection like the base game had where we all used and looked the same.[/quote] [b]EDIT: Another awesome comment! First part is HILARIOUS! It has some good points. This was made by Cloney:[/b] [quote] "Hey you grinded out VoG to get all that Armour and all those Weapons in the beginning? You're attached to them and love them?" "Yeah I do" "Well that is boring as shit, so you can't use that shit anymore" I honestly do not understand Bungie's philosophy when it comes to gear....especially when the new gear they release is getting consistently more boring than the gear from the Vanilla game. Im going through VoG still trying to get the Armour (because I came late to the Raiding Party) because I love that shit over the PoE stuff, over the Crota stuff and all the other Endgame stuff that is out there. They seem to have this philosophy of forcing players into a smaller and smaller selection of gear they higher level they are....its utterly ridiculous, I mean some of the Exotics are Exotic because they have a long history with Previous Owners who used them for a long time... Thorn, The Last Word, Bad Juju....all used by people within the Destiny lore and became famous sort after guns, isn't the entire point of Destiny forging your own legend? What if my Guardian wants to be known as the badass Titan who took down Crota, Atheon and all the other bosses in between in her Kabr Armour, wielding the Word of Crota, Black Hammer and Gjallarhon? It just boggles the mind that they ask us to play through all this content so much, being bitchslapped by the RNGesus at every step, and when we finally get what we want.... ....they tell us "Sorry, using that is boring, use this crappy new gun instead because it will do more damage."[/quote]