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Modificato da SecondClass:
3/16/2014 6:04:59 PM
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Why do people still buy into the flu "vaccine" scam?
Tuberculosis, measles, polio; it would be child abuse not to vaccinate for those diseases. But the flu is a virus that mutates practically every year, and that your body is perfectly capable of defending against on it's own. If you get a yearly flu vaccine, you're buying into the scam.
[u]Sources/evidence (which maybe 5% of you will read):[/u]
[url=http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2009/10/15/junk-science-and-the-flu-vaccine-scam-revealed/]Source[/url]
[url=https://archive.org/details/Dr.HorowitzRipsDr.OzApartOnAbcsH1n1FluVaccineFraudPart2Of3]Source[/url]
[url=http://www.rxlist.com/fluzone-drug/patient-images-side-effects.htm]Source[/url]
[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/11/does-the-vaccine-matter/307723/]Source[/url]
[url=http://www.rense.com/general87/scam.htm]Source[/url]
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I haven't had a flu vaccine in years. Some vaccines are ultimately necessary, but the flu vaccine isn't one of them.
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WHOA SHIT, THIS JUICE IS BANGIN' YO!
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lol@retrovirusvaccines
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4 RisposteI get it for free, so I don't care.
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1 RispondiFlu vaccine is pointless, vaccines for children arent. >havent had a flu shot since 16, in 1996 >had flu twice since
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2 RisposteModificato da Twitchyloner: 3/18/2014 7:28:05 PMIn other news: Measles are back ....
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2 RisposteDo you even Google Scholar bro? You have no journal articles, just magazine style reporting. Leern 2 sorce: [i]James A. Wilde, MD; Julia A. McMillan, MD; Janet Serwint, MD; Jeanne Butta, RN; Mary Ann O'Riordan, MS; Mark C. Steinhoff, MD [/i] [b]Results [/b]We conducted 359 person-winters of serologic surveillance (99.4% follow-up) and 4746 person-weeks of illness surveillance (100% follow-up). Twenty-four (13.4%) of 179 control subjects and 3 (1.7%) of 180 influenza vaccine recipients had serologic evidence of influenza type A or B infection during the study period. Vaccine efficacy against serologically defined infection was 88% for influenza A (95% confidence interval [CI], 47%-97%; P=.001) and 89% for influenza B (95% CI, 14%-99%; P=.03). Among influenza vaccinees, cumulative days of reported febrile respiratory illness were 28.7 per 100 subjects compared with 40.6 per 100 subjects in controls (P=.57) and days of absence were 9.9 per 100 subjects vs 21.1 per 100 subjects in controls (P=.41). [b]Conclusions [/b]Influenza vaccine is effective in preventing infection by influenza A and B in health care professionals and may reduce reported days of work absence and febrile respiratory illness. These data support a policy of annual influenza vaccination of health care professionals. Further reference [url]http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/4/459.full[/url]
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3 RisposteYOUR KIDS WILL DIE YOU WILL DIE GIVE ME MONEY OR YOU'LL DIE! [spoiler]fear[/spoiler]
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11 RispostePlease don't breed.
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2 Rispostehttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic Because it only takes one severe enough mutation along with sparse vaccination for us to have a fatal epidemic on our hands. It's better to be redundant and safe rather than sorry.
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Modificato da Grapes: 3/17/2014 2:44:22 PMNever gotten the flu except once, it sucked but I'm OK, I don't take medictions, not even over the counter drugs. I have a pretty bad ass immune system.
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3 RisposteOne season I didn't get the vaccine. Wound up getting the flu at the start of December and nearly bombed all my finals. Lesson learned. Besides, thanks to socialized medicine, the only cost directly attributable to me is probably the HST on my Tim Hortons breakfast sandwich combo.
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Most of your sources are conflating the [i]swine flu[/i] vaccine with the regular seasonal flu vaccine. They are not the same and do not have the same components, side effects, benefits, or risks. As for you saying that your body can defend against it on its own, that's why the flu vaccine is only really recommended for people with weakened immune systems in the first place, isn't it?
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Do you know that the common flu can cause you heart to fail ... for one or more of the chamber walls to weaken and balloon under the hearts own effort to compensate. In generic terms it is known as [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3405785/]Cardiomyopathy[/url] (literally meaning diseased heart) and often presents as asthma like symptoms. A suggest that ... just like your forum tag ... your advice is also second class.
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5 RisposteModificato da ~wolfBTM~: 3/17/2014 12:57:38 PMIf you work in the medical field you are required to take it yearly to protect [yourself and patients] against the spread of whatever strain is going around that year.
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I'm required to because I have direct patient care, I still would anyways though.
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1 RispondiHaven't gotten a vaccine in years. Then just a month and a half ago I came down with the worst flu of my life. Coincidence? Maybe, but it never hurts to try.
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1 RispondiI would rather not suffer the flu, it's nasty. Sure my body can fight it off, but in the meantime I'll be miserable.
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1 Rispondistopped getting the flu vaccine: stopped getting the flu
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1 RispondiI haven't got a vaccine in....never. Please praise me, OP.
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5 RisposteMy body may or may not be capable of defending against it on my own. That's not even necessarily the point. It's actually infants, people with chronically bad immune systems, people with Hiv / aids, the elderly, and people who are otherwise particularly vulnerable or regularly interact with people who are particularly vulnerable, who should be taking it every year. There's actually a pretty compelling argument that seasonal flu vaccines, containing the most dangerous strains of the flu to emerge in a season, act as a selection pressure leading to less dangerous flu strains over time.
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Modificato da Aryan Barbarian : 3/17/2014 12:46:28 AMThe vaccine kills more than the virus, it is a scam.
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4 RisposteModificato da Indominus: 3/17/2014 12:35:03 AMI've never bought into this scam.
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8 Risposte[quote] the flu is a surprisingly fatal and aggressive disease, killing approximately 250,000 people every year, with children currently posed at a 30% health risk.[/quote] This is why.
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2 RisposteWell, it's free for some of us. Why not? That being said, I don't get vaccinated for the flu.
