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3/20/2021 9:39:17 PM
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Forced 50/50 win ratio is BS

I'm so sick of being put up against people that have no business fighting me, and I'm just as sick of being put against people that I have no business fighting. You should never be able to look at the teams and immediately know who will win. That's terrible design. But let's see, who will win? The team of 3 gilded flawless with pvp god roll adept weapons (with two revenants and a Behemoth of course) and they're all max power, or the team of players with NOBODY over 1300 Power, all running demigod or worse pvp weapons, and all 3 of them with a lifetime KD of 0.9 or lower as opposed to the other teams lifetimes of 2.0-2.9? Seriously. "You win some, you lose some" shouldn't be taken this literally. But I'll go four or five matches in freelance being dominated, losing 4-0 every single time, then suddenly I'm up against absolute scrubs, and I'm winning 4-0. The in-betweens are either losing 4-2 or winning 4-1, and it's ridiculous. Just put me against people of equal skill, and let us actually improve our win loss ratio naturally so we can see how good or bad we really are. Enough of this "win some by a mile, lose some by a mile" BS.
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  • [quote]Forced 50/50 win ratio[/quote] Oh no, it's time for that conspiracy theory again?

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    • You know that putting you against people with equal skill is also forcing a 50/50 WL. Not that 50/50 WL is bad, that's good matchmaking if it matches you against people who are of equal skill to ensure that you stay in the 50% region.

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      • There is no forced 50/50...

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        • Bungie does not force you to have a 50% win ratio. Players who are stuck at an elo bracket are the ones who have a 50% win ratio, also, it’s not a bad sign that you have a 50% win ratio. It means you’ve reached your skill tier and you have to improve to break it. I know many people including myself who have 80%+ win ratios, I also know players who fall WELL below the 50% win ratio. The game is not holding you back, there is only one person doing it and I’m sure you can guess who it is.

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          • The Youtubers & the "community" didn't want skill based matchmaking and Bungie caved and got rid of it.

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          • KD higher than mine = filthy try hard KD lower than mine = filthy scrub 💁‍♂️

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            • I am no Crucible sweat by any means, but after over 3400 matches, I still maintain a 53 percent win ratio. My KD sucks because I really don't care about KD... Just winning. that being said, I had a 63% win ratio prior to forsaken. Everything seemed to drop off rather rapidly regardless of the new mods one could add to their armor and weapons at that time. let's be honest, if you won every match, or lost every match... You would not play The Crucible. it would be either boring, or too frustrating.

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              • Modificato da Hero: 3/21/2021 9:56:59 PM
                I’m an above average pvp player, KDA is at 3.41 atm. My win rate is like 46% 🤣. Pathetic system. I love it when I get mercied against perfectly match made randoms who play like a 6 stack.

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                • Modificato da Collins9875: 3/21/2021 4:14:56 PM
                  Be glad it isn't World of Tanks with XVM. Start of game players running the mod get the team's win % chance and WN8, skill level, of each player. At times deciding to drop the game or commit suicide if they don't like the odds. Speculation is that games are rigged given information players with XVM get and the amount of one sided blow outs. Reasons I stopped caring about video games on a competitive level in random pubs. As for Destiny it's more of a hobby and normally only go into PvP for Iron Banner or Mayhem. Even then I try to pull my weight but don't get stressed over it. Iron Banner in D1 with holo players ghosting taught me this.

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                  • I got 90-3’ed by 5 revenants and a behemoth in my first non iron banner match this season I don’t plan on playing iron banner

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                  • Dude, I wish my win rate was 50/50, I have like a 40% win rate in control this season with over a 2 kd. The team balancing is just whack as hell. It obviously doesn't cap skill rating when making teams so, if bungie thinks you're better than the others in the lobby, you're just going to lose and there's nothing you can do about it...

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                    • Modificato da DarkMoonWolf666: 3/22/2021 12:05:27 PM
                      If it was actually 50/50 win rates the matchmaking for Solo player would be better than What we have now

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                    • I agree, something is effed up with matching but its definitely not win some lose some i believe i lose way more than win, personally I try the first 2 rounds then throw the rest once I see whats going on or is it even worth trying, however I do think its something more then rng something is wrong with it and its not healthy, I played many fps and destiny is by far the worst pvp experience I have ever seen from matching to how our weapons have a ton of rng involved in a single shot even how we get end game pvp loot is effing stupid "you must play trials and go flawless for best stuff" personally make it like every pvp game, you play you unlock if your good you unlock faster if your not so good you will still unlock in time no more worries from blocking no more worries from carries or recovs because you play you will in time get the stuff, its healthy it the right way to do it.

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                      • If there is an enforced 50/50, why don’t you have a 50% win rate?

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                      • [i]Laughs in 33% win rate[/i]

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                        • You can have a high win ratio and still lose to old habits. Like freezing up when you see an enemy or pushing too aggressively. Or not being in the right mindset when duking it out with other guardians. Improvement comes when you recognize these flaws and patch them out. You can't rely on matchmaking to give you an easy time. Not say it isn't complete dog water. It's just you shouldn't expect it to be in your favor if it's screwed you over so much in the past.

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                        • we need a better sbmm playlist. not the 1 we have now.

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                          • When I play quickplay with a fireteam it definitely goes above 50/50. Way above. When I play solo I often lose even if I have a good game. While I think the matchmaking has elements of CBMM and SBMM, the forced 50/50 is a myth.

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                          • Control has just become where I go to unwind or try out different builds so I don't care about win/loss rations that much, but the matchmaking is maddening in Survival. Evenly matched teams are so rare, yet those are the most rewarding even if my team loses. (Obviously, I prefer winning, but winning a fair match is easier to take.)

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                          • [quote]I'm so sick of being put up against people that have no business fighting me, and I'm just as sick of being put against people that I have no business fighting. You should never be able to look at the teams and immediately know who will win. That's terrible design. But let's see, who will win? The team of 3 gilded flawless with pvp god roll adept weapons (with two revenants and a Behemoth of course) and they're all max power, or the team of players with NOBODY over 1300 Power, all running demigod or worse pvp weapons, and all 3 of them with a lifetime KD of 0.9 or lower as opposed to the other teams lifetimes of 2.0-2.9? Seriously. "You win some, you lose some" shouldn't be taken this literally. But I'll go four or five matches in freelance being dominated, losing 4-0 every single time, then suddenly I'm up against absolute scrubs, and I'm winning 4-0. The in-betweens are either losing 4-2 or winning 4-1, and it's ridiculous[/quote]That is called lobby balancing and yes is something that should be removed. [quote]Just put me against people of equal skill, and let us actually improve our win loss ratio naturally so we can see how good or bad we really are. Enough of this "win some by a mile, lose some by a mile" BS.[/quote] Yeah no. Putting you only vs people of equal skill is sbmm which was terrible while implemented and is also a 50/50 win rate creator. Cbmm with no lobby balancing is how you naturally see your true win rate

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                            • I lost 9 games just in row. I hope my good luck continues!

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                              • There are a few videos out there confirming this, and if the after match report could be viewed BEFORE the match started, players could back out or stay in depending on the swing. The after match report displays your teams percentage of winning or losing a match, and some videos have shown that it can be predetermined up to 91% of a team winning or losing before the start of a game. Of course this doesn't apply to full fireteams, just teams of solo players. Another reason why there should be the option for teams or solo players in ALL PvP modes.

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                              • Its this way by design. Think of it in terms of "Participation Trophies". If lots of players we're constantly stomped, they would stop playing. But, if they can be just good enough to complete bounties/quest and every once in a while get good loot...

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                              • Your words will be unheard Your words will be ignored Nobody cares Destiny pvp is a joke Take it with a pinch of salt Enjoy many many many far better pvp games elsewhere When you accept this only then will you be free from the disappointment you feel riddled with complaints about everything

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                              • My favorite is when I pop off the first two rounds, then can’t land a single shot until we lose the match.

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                                • Its not a forced 50/50 win ratio. Depending on how its set up after a certain number of matches the game just gets really harsh with trying to give most people the win rate they already have. Unfortunately with Destiny it ends up coming across looking quite broken most of the time.

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